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[ramAnag]

It would help if you checked out the footage because that’s exactly what happened.

That’s fair comment but I can’t at the moment.
My point is though…what proportion of male officers would be able to handle those trained in boxing and the martial arts?

As regards your question about the Spanish v British police…I just don’t feel equipped to comment…sorry, mainly because I’ve never been on the wrong end of the Spanish police (and very much hope to keep it that way) and it’s nearly fifty years since I was involved in any sort of altercation with their English equivalents…and that wasn’t much fun.

[swaledale]

What about your mates in leeds/ Birmingham/ Tottenham/east london ?

Oh they don't count do they, must have had a valid reason, like a cricket match upset or something happening in Bangladesh that upset them.
Yearh, only white people kick off with no reason.

Well you don't seem upset to be associated with the dregs of society that are currently rioting, not protesting, because funnily enough protesting doesn't generally involve, fighting, throwing missiles, destroying property, robbery, looting or attacking the Police.

Explain how instigating a riot in the town where the tragic incident took place helps the people involved?

Explain why when white people have committed similar heinous crimes, that didn't result in a bunch of thick yobs rioting?

Also what twisted logic suggests that because other groups of people have also behaved badly, that justifies another group to do the same, what the **** are you? A ****ing child?

Just **** off, you shouldn't be on this Forum posting crap, spreading false rumours and hateful bile, its only because the moderator isn't doing his job that your still here. but then he clearly is one of the "its disgraceful conduct but they ahve a point" brigade. NO they don't ahve a ****ing point they are just mindless thugs!

[MadAmster]

The police can recruit any height lets get that right.



as for Khalifa.
Two female boxers who were disqualified from the 2023 world championship after being judged to have failed gender eligibility tests were cleared to fight at the Olympic Games in Paris, and it sparked online outrage from conservatives and anti-LGBTQ+ commentators
International Boxing Association Russian president, Umar Kremlev, claimed that DNA test results showed the two athletes have XY chromosomes, but the results were never published

Let's get that right. MY post to which you replied, stated in the very first line "there are no legal height requirements to become a police officer in the UK" so quite how you felt the need to "get that right" is somewhat of a mystery.

Khalifa. She was, indeed, disqualified by the IBA last year at the Worlds. They CLAIMED an XY chromosome imbalance or something of the sort. The IBA is not recognised by the IOC. Dropped because of financial and other irregularities. The IBA still hasn't provided Khalifa, her coaches or the Algerian Boxing Board with any evidence to back up their claim. The advantage the IBA claim she has, has so far seen her lose 9 bouts during her career. The Italian boxer who quit after 46 seconds has now come out and said she was wrong and has apologised to Khalifa. Kind of blows a hole in your contention, doesn't it?

[Andy_Faber]

Just **** off, you shouldn't be on this Forum posting crap, spreading false rumours and hateful bile, its only because the moderator isn't doing his job that your still here. but then he clearly is one of the "its disgraceful conduct but they ahve a point" brigade. NO they don't ahve a ****ing point they are just mindless thugs!

The Moderator takes a balanced view, allowing the two extremists (yourself and TTR) to have their say, and observes that you appear to be two sides of the same coin, citing dubious/biased (in TTR’s case) and often uncited (in your case) sources and indulging in insults (both) and swear filter fails (you) that other board members either never resort to or have backed off from doing so. The main difference between you is that you appear to resort to ‘type’ in wanting those most vocally opposed to you to be ‘cancelled’. This is a footy forum and believe me if TTR overstepped the mark on football issues he’d be a goner PDQ, he’s got close a couple of times but his jibes on football are usually just laughable. Politics/world issues however have no club, so IMO all welcome with a legal view. If you don’t like what you see on such posts, please suggest we remove all non-footy/sport and I’ll poll opinion. Note, I don’t add ‘or just **** off’ because that’s never going to win friends or an argument.

[Trickytreesreds]

Hmmm…so these two guys who were ‘obviously experienced boxers or martial arts trained’…you reckon in such circumstances a male officer would have done so much better do you?

That’s surely why we need a debate about how well the police should be armed.

As for ‘let me tell you a secret’…listening to you has become a bit like Jackanory, ‘it will take 2 or 3 burly men to take down one prisoner’. I’m sure that’s true with some hard cases and yes, I can only imagine how hard that might be, but it doesn’t always take that does it? That’s just rubbish.

Btw…how long is it since you were a prison officer and how long for…because when I first started on here about eight years ago you were claiming to be an engineer.

Christ you are about as bad as Joe Biden memory wise.
1. the men didn;'t get sparked out, they were still fighting. A male physical body, can absord more punishment than a females- FACT.
2. I never have been a prison officer, as I told you many many times. I was seconded to a Prison to run a contract, which I did for 7 years. I still had to learn prison rules/ train in self defence/ get involved if needed.
I am engineer, trianed educated from when at British coal. Obviously a different career path took place.
Do I get lines now?

[Trickytreesreds]

It would help if you checked out the footage because that’s exactly what happened.

you can't re educate pork . He always sees what he wants to see, then does an ostrich impression if he doesn't like it.

[SithHappens]

On the topic of the 2 Olympians. If you are born female what's the issue? It's not like they have done anything to gain an advantage.

If they have then it would be fair enough to ban them but I've not seen anything to suggest they have, sometimes people are born into a body that gives them an advantage through genetics.

If we ban them then what happens then? I've no doubt they wouldn't compete against men, so who do they compete against? Surely to not allow them to do so is discrimination.

Or maybe we ban everyone from sport who gains an advantage from natural genetics, all those 7 foot basketball players , let's ban them as it's not fair on all the Warwick Davies of the world who dreamt of being professional basketball players when they grew up.

[Trickytreesreds]

Well you don't seem upset to be associated with the dregs of society that are currently rioting, not protesting, because funnily enough protesting doesn't generally involve, fighting, throwing missiles, destroying property, robbery, looting or attacking the Police.

Explain how instigating a riot in the town where the tragic incident took place helps the people involved?

Explain why when white people have committed similar heinous crimes, that didn't result in a bunch of thick yobs rioting?

Also what twisted logic suggests that because other groups of people have also behaved badly, that justifies another group to do the same, what the **** are you? A ****ing child?

Just **** off, you shouldn't be on this Forum posting crap, spreading false rumours and hateful bile, its only because the moderator isn't doing his job that your still here. but then he clearly is one of the "its disgraceful conduct but they ahve a point" brigade. NO they don't ahve a ****ing point they are just mindless thugs!

I'll ignore the stupidity of your usual rants.
I obviously triggered you with that rant and barrage.

Lets put this out there shall we. I deplore all violent protest and assaults.



Now, back to you. You ignore the riots and vilence instigated from the minority side in the uk. We have had em all. BLM/ Muslims/ Bangladeshi's/ Hindu's, yet the minute the white population do it. THE FAR RIGHT ARE EVERYWHERE. You really are as blind as Starmer and an apologist and appeaser.

Every violent out burst, usually has a reason behind it, whether its justified or not.

BLM, jumped on board the George Floyd bandwagon. The Muslims/Hindus in Leicester, over a cricket match.
The Palestine marches are a hot bed of anti semitic abuse and anger. Roma and muslims kicking off at social services doing their job?
How were these handled?
With kid gloves and cotton wool. You had coppers and politicians bending the knee. We have had coppers running away in Leeds.

Every demo involving Union flag wavers is policed with full riot gear and kettling. Its 2 tier policing?

What has triggered all this outrage? At the crux of it, mass immigration and the crime that has come with it.
*** abuse gangs/ knife gangs/ drug gangs/ having their communities tipped upside down and their quality of life reduced.

Quote Rachel Reeves 2016- Tensions over immigration could “explode” into riots, Labour MP Rachel Reeves warned today as she described her constituency as a “tinder box”.

The Leeds West MP gave the prediction as she urged her party to listen to people’s concerns over immigration.

Now you may shout right wing thugs all you like. But I'll quote a few in here, as they often say- " not all the rioters protestors are racist or violent and shouldn't be tarred with the same brush. its a small minority"

Here listen to this, what Starmer has just said, was wrong and will inflame the situation more, He 's a clown. Though seeing as he's now legged it on holoday, he wont care.

https://fb.watch/tL3S9fNiHC/

[Trickytreesreds]

On the topic of the 2 Olympians. If you are born female what's the issue? It's not like they have done anything to gain an advantage.

If they have then it would be fair enough to ban them but I've not seen anything to suggest they have, sometimes people are born into a body that gives them an advantage through genetics.

If we ban them then what happens then? I've no doubt they wouldn't compete against men, so who do they compete against? Surely to not allow them to do so is discrimination.

Or maybe we ban everyone from sport who gains an advantage from natural genetics, all those 7 foot basketball players , let's ban them as it's not fair on all the Warwick Davies of the world who dreamt of being professional basketball players when they grew up.

It damgerous for a start. Like football, girls can play with boys up to under 11's, then its over. They actually don't like it, but when you(as I have done with mine) watch them develop, that will get hurt.

The boxers with DSDs are raised as female but may have *** chromosomes other than XX, or elevated testosterone levels, according to the NIH.

People with Swyer syndrome, according to the National Library of Medicine, have one X chromosome and one Y chromosome in each cell (typically found in boys and men), but they have female reproductive structures
They have no uterus and underdeveloped testes , which dump testosterone into muscle and bone.
Its an area that some bodies are quite clear about but the IOC decided to ignore

[SithHappens]

At least the mystery of the sinking of the titanic has been solved

https://x.com/jonhotspur88/status/1819684986015912426

[Geoff Parkstone]

😀😀 an interesting explanation!

[Trickytreesreds]

���� an interesting explanation!

The worlds full of them

https://youtu.be/BRh9C3naxKU?si=zzdkPLPZVFWlC6qL

[Trickytreesreds]

from heroes, to sheroes

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/AbUptsE96cfx9xYs/

[Trickytreesreds]

I agree with this completely. Starmer should be asking why this has happened and how do we stop it?
In the other riots, it is normally " we will look at the facts and come to talk to community leaders"
Its called negotiating and under standing, not labelling a whole demograph, "far right"

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ALL violence is unacceptable and MUST be policed in an equal way.
Millions are angry. I'm angry. That does not justify attacks on the police.
Riots, with whoever is participating, must be dealt with in a consistent approach - that has clearly not always been the case, severely undermining trust.
Legitimate worries around the impact of uncontrolled mass immigration exist across the country, dismissing them as 'far right' is wrong and will only add to that anger.
Starmer has not made any effort to understand or empathise with the concerns of many. That is a mistake. His party, with Blair, started the process of opening our borders, which has been an unmitigated disaster for our country. That is the root cause of much of the frustration millions and millions are feeling.
But however furious people are, violence is NOT the answer and should be comprehensively tackled, regardless of who threw the punch.

[Ramshank72]

I watched the boxing match, on YouTube so no commentary. Actually didn't see any issues, I thought the Italian was asking for her gloves to be fixed. Hardly a punch thrown. Nothing in it really, but from the media you'd think the other boxer had beaten 7 bells out of her.