Election Year or Fear!

[MadAmster]

Does it really matter who wins the US election? Genuine question.

Both are funded by the mega rich. All the "sponsors" will want something in return for their money.

One of the first things Trump did in 2017 was to give the rich tax breaks. The Democrats decried it. In 2020 Biden got in. Those tax breaks they decried have not been reversed. Most of the same rich folk that fund Trump, are funding Harris. There are some who only back one side. Whoever gets in there will be not many great changes. The rich folk that pay Trump will make sure he does what it is they want doing. Pretty much the reason why there's the thickness of a Rizla paper between the Red and Blue Tories in the UK.

It doesn't really matter for whom you vote, you get roughly the same crap thrown at you, whoever wins.

[MadAmster]

Tricky, defamation? Yes. Your comment makes it seem like his uncle wasn't on board the Antelope and that he lied in the Chamber. PMQs is a stressful (I nearly said taxing) time for any PM. If it then also gets emotional because it's close to home, a faux pas is always on the cards.

All over asocial media folk are posting to the effect that it was a down right lie and his Uncle wasn't aboard. Exactly the meaning of your post. THAT is defamation. So, in answer to your "defamation" question, absolutely YES!!

[Andy_Faber]

Tricky, defamation? Yes. Your comment makes it seem like his uncle wasn't on board the Antelope and that he lied in the Chamber. PMQs is a stressful (I nearly said taxing) time for any PM. If it then also gets emotional because it's close to home, a faux pas is always on the cards.

All over asocial media folk are posting to the effect that it was a down right lie and his Uncle wasn't aboard. Exactly the meaning of your post. THAT is defamation. So, in answer to your "defamation" question, absolutely YES!!

In trickys defence he has accepted, rant free, the deletion, whether he still believes what he posted is up to him

[ramAnag]

Does it really matter who wins the US election? Genuine question.

Both are funded by the mega rich. All the "sponsors" will want something in return for their money.

One of the first things Trump did in 2017 was to give the rich tax breaks. The Democrats decried it. In 2020 Biden got in. Those tax breaks they decried have not been reversed. Most of the same rich folk that fund Trump, are funding Harris. There are some who only back one side. Whoever gets in there will be not many great changes. The rich folk that pay Trump will make sure he does what it is they want doing. Pretty much the reason why there's the thickness of a Rizla paper between the Red and Blue Tories in the UK.

It doesn't really matter for whom you vote, you get roughly the same crap thrown at you, whoever wins.

I take your point, MA…as I do about the UK’s ‘red and blue Tories’, but I believe, yes, it does matter when any reasonable person cannot help but have massive misgivings about this particular Republican candidate’s sanity, honesty, integrity, capability and attitude towards gender, race and equality.

[MadAmster]

In trickys defence he has accepted, rant free, the deletion, whether he still believes what he posted is up to him

Unaware his original post had been deleted. Hmmm....

His reply to me, post #1871, seems to point to him not accepting his post was defamatory. That, IMO, is his problem. Even when something is explained, factually, he doesn't seem capable of taking on board that he was wrong, that his thinking on the subject needs a little or a lot of tuning.

[Andy_Faber]

Unaware his original post had been deleted. Hmmm....

His reply to me, post #1871, seems to point to him not accepting his post was defamatory. That, IMO, is his problem. Even when something is explained, factually, he doesn't seem capable of taking on board that he was wrong, that his thinking on the subject needs a little or a lot of tuning.

I deleted it and offered him the chance to have it undeleted if he could prove his assertion NOT to be a lie. He declined, and as (pointed out by you) it was potentially defamatory I didn’t wait for a ‘second tick’ from yourself.

[swaledale]

Anyway good news for pensioners, if they stop buying the Daily Mail, over a year they can more than recoup what they lose in the winter fuel allowance! Seems a win win to me.

[Trickytreesreds]

Unaware his original post had been deleted. Hmmm....

His reply to me, post #1871, seems to point to him not accepting his post was defamatory. That, IMO, is his problem. Even when something is explained, factually, he doesn't seem capable of taking on board that he was wrong, that his thinking on the subject needs a little or a lot of tuning.

MA I had let it drop, and told Andy so in PM.

Here is what I quoted to him

I didn't reply because it wasn't worth it. I never said he didn't have an uncle in the Falklands, but its really conincidental, that he didn't even know Antelope was bombed and not torpedoed. If he really was that passionate, anyone would be well aware. Personally, its a Starmer anecdote written all over it, like Millands bacon sandwich and Camerons pasty. Trying to look normal.

[Trickytreesreds]

Ooooooops own goal number one.
Louise Haigh upsets an investor, not a good move.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/angela-rayner-investment-starmer-port-starmer-b2627846.html

[Andy_Faber]

100 days in and an Independent analyst on Newsnight describes Labours governing as a dogs breakfast. I love that phrase. They ought to put Mick Lynch and John Swinney in charge, both much more focussed and capable than Starmer, and I don’t especially agree with their politics. What a shambles so far

[SithHappens]

Ooooooops own goal number one.
Louise Haigh upsets an investor, not a good move.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2627846.html

Don't think Starmer was happy with her, but they are worthy of criticism for their treatment of employees.

[SithHappens]

Anyway good news for pensioners, if they stop buying the Daily Mail, over a year they can more than recoup what they lose in the winter fuel allowance! Seems a win win to me.

they could burn the daily mail though to keep warm, probably all it's good for

[ramAnag]

100 days in and an Independent analyst on Newsnight describes Labours governing as a dogs breakfast. I love that phrase. They ought to put Mick Lynch and John Swinney in charge, both much more focussed and capable than Starmer, and I don’t especially agree with their politics. What a shambles so far

As it’s approaching that time of year I have to say, ‘you’re beginning to sound a lot like’...Tricky!!
Perhaps it would be best to pause and ponder on what went before…if not for the whole of the previous fourt*en years then at least for the last six…and that’s four prime ministers who all left either in tears or under a very sizeable ‘cloud’.

[Andy_Faber]

Don't think Starmer was happy with her, but they are worthy of criticism for their treatment of employees.

Yes there’s the conundrum, speak out about appalling employee treatment and lose 2bn of business or keep shtum

[Trickytreesreds]

As it’s approaching that time of year I have to say, ‘you’re beginning to sound a lot like’...Tricky!!
Perhaps it would be best to pause and ponder on what went before…if not for the whole of the previous fourt*en years then at least for the last six…and that’s four prime ministers who all left either in tears or under a very sizeable ‘cloud’.

and you sound like Starmer and Rayner, lol 14 years of Tory rule blah blah blah
Its all they ever say. So I will say it again, LABOUR are in charge now, not the Tories. This is supposed to be a honeymoon period of joy and relief. But it isn't. They piss someone else off every week and it gets worse every week. I read this morning, they think its now ok to import biomass from North Korea and Afghanistan to fund their green propaganda. WTF are they on? How is importing biomass, better than using the coal under our feet?
Also, if Afghanistan is now good enough to trade with, perhaps the multiple thousands of Afghani men can go back?

Perhaps another no brainer, from Angela Rayner will halp you. A bit of comedy genius. "proud northerner and Basic instinct fan"

https://youtube.com/shorts/GttRp8AapI0?si=wAoiHqHBSPA-24Uh