Election Year or Fear!

[MadAmster]

Here's one for MA, seeing as he was defending Starmers early release fiasco. Contrary to his beliefs, violent offenders are being released and the whole system is falling apart. Its about as organised as his smash the gangs hot air.

This clown couldn't run a bath

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...go/ar-AA1tRXG2

Just maybe, it would help if TTR actually read and understood what's in an article prior to posting it up as proof of violent prisoners being let out early.

Here's a sentence, cut and paste from the MSN article ...

There are fears that offenders who have committed violent crimes will be let out early due to a “loophole” and that they will go on to commit further offences.

That does not say they are being let out. Merely that someone is voicing fears that it MIGHT happen.

PS - I might be wrong but, I'm pretty sure I quoted reports saying that violent offenders wouldn't be released early based on a Minister saying so and then it turned out that the one TTR referred to had done his time for a non-violent crime and was serving a subsequent sentence for a lesser crime.

[Trickytreesreds]

I didn’t ‘excuse’ anything at all. I suggested that it seemed likely that individuals on both sides were ‘all too happy’ to ‘retaliate’, meaning, I’m guessing there would be trouble makers on both sides…and there is absolutely nothing in my post to suggest I defended, in any way, ‘stopping white (or indeed any) people in the streets and asking for their papers, or chasing Jews through the street yelling anti semitic rhetoric’.
Suggest you read more carefully and stop clutching at straws by trying to twist my words.

Again you are dodging it.
The Israeli football fans were there to be dealt with by the police. Happy to retaliate shouldn't even be in consideration Live in the west, you abide by its laws. End of.
Again, you are quick out the blocks when blaming the far right,

Again I will say it, Import, en masse a load of cultures that don't integrate and the clashes will surface. This is why right wing parties are rising. Folks are sick to death of it and need someone to speak out for them.

The Amsterdam mayor should resign Weak, and useless

Of course its nice to hear MA's opinion, he lives there. But his opinion, is not the whole story either.
Much as you hate social media, things surface, that the main stream media supress or distort.

Here have a watch , home made.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJM_V8jE9mc

This will become the norm in Europe as these cultures clash.

[Trickytreesreds]

Just maybe, it would help if TTR actually read and understood what's in an article prior to posting it up as proof of violent prisoners being let out early.

Here's a sentence, cut and paste from the MSN article ...

There are fears that offenders who have committed violent crimes will be let out early due to a “loophole” and that they will go on to commit further offences.

That does not say they are being let out. Merely that someone is voicing fears that it MIGHT happen.

PS - I might be wrong but, I'm pretty sure I quoted reports saying that violent offenders wouldn't be released early based on a Minister saying so and then it turned out that the one TTR referred to had done his time for a non-violent crime and was serving a subsequent sentence for a lesser crime.Peter, a probation officer working for the service in England for over 15 years, said it was “not safe” to release so many people at once.

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Oh stop evading MA. Read on what the whistle blower actually said

But probation officers told i that a “loophole” in the scheme means those with a history of violence and ***ual offending ARE being released early. Whistleblowers names have been changed to protect their identity.Peter, a probation officer working for the service in England for over 15 years, said it was “not safe” to release so many people at once.

“I don’t care what the press and public are being told – men with violent and ***ual offending [histories] are coming out early, often with a risk management plan thrown together in days,” he said.

[Trickytreesreds]

SAME OLD SAME OLD.

LETS NOT CONFRONT AND TALK ABOUT A PROBLEM.
Lets water it down and hope it goes away.

Its the same all over Europe, see no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil

[Trickytreesreds]

Trump ripple continues,
Lineker gone/ Welby gone/ ? They say it comes in 3's

[ramAnag]

Again you are dodging it.
The Israeli football fans were there to be dealt with by the police. Happy to retaliate shouldn't even be in consideration Live in the west, you abide by its laws. End of.
Again, you are quick out the blocks when blaming the far right,

Again I will say it, Import, en masse a load of cultures that don't integrate and the clashes will surface. This is why right wing parties are rising. Folks are sick to death of it and need someone to speak out for them.

The Amsterdam mayor should resign Weak, and useless

Of course its nice to hear MA's opinion, he lives there. But his opinion, is not the whole story either.
Much as you hate social media, things surface, that the main stream media supress or distort.

Here have a watch , home made.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJM_V8jE9mc

This will become the norm in Europe as these cultures clash.

Oh God…not more TTRTV that we’re all meant to take as gospel.

I’m ‘dodging’ nothing and I’m not suggesting MA knows the ‘whole story’ either…just a hell of a lot more than you.

Tbh, Tricky…personally all I’m ‘sick to death of’ is you, a Forest fan with a massive anti immigrant/Muslim fixation, repetitively bombarding this (DCFC) forum with your invariably divisive comments which you seek to make more credible via the endless attachment of GBeebie and YouTube clips.

[SithHappens]

Trump ripple continues,
Lineker gone/ Welby gone/ ? They say it comes in 3's

Well welbys past caught up with him so maybe a certain premier league owners past might do too 😜

[SithHappens]

To be fair in response to TTR post I'm one who thinks Lineker is a really good host and can't imagine MOTD being as good without him.

[Andy_Faber]

To be fair in response to TTR post I'm one who thinks Lineker is a really good host and can't imagine MOTD being as good without him.

I shouldn't have a view because I seldom watch Prem MOTD, but they've got to give it Mark Chapman surely, very knowledgeable and his stint with Osi and Jason on the NFL Show showed he could bring a show to life without being the main attraction.

[SithHappens]

I shouldn't have a view because I seldom watch Prem MOTD, but they've got to give it Mark Chapman surely, very knowledgeable and his stint with Osi and Jason on the NFL Show showed he could bring a show to life without being the main attraction.

I reckon will be a bit like HIGNFY with different presenters weekly

[ramAnag]

Didn’t know we were electing a new MOTD presenter…but I agree that Lineker has been a superb host and, despite being a MUFC fan, that ‘Chapers’ would be an excellent replacement.

[Trickytreesreds]

Oh God…not more TTRTV that we’re all meant to take as gospel.

I’m ‘dodging’ nothing and I’m not suggesting MA knows the ‘whole story’ either…just a hell of a lot more than you.

Tbh, Tricky…personally all I’m ‘sick to death of’ is you, a Forest fan with a massive anti immigrant/Muslim fixation, repetitively bombarding this (DCFC) forum with your invariably divisive comments which you seek to make more credible via the endless attachment of GBeebie and YouTube clips.

lol, but you demand evidence to any claims?
Your denial to a problem that is right under your nose, never mind Europe astounds me.
The Christmas markets are up and armed police are out, I wonder why|? Are they fearful of a Sikh or Buddist attack?

Here's a video for you , that HAS GONE TO THE POLICE, of why this is happening and why Jews are bricking it.

https://www.facebook.com/100024123455248/videos/1846592582533202/?idorvanity=641507174698114

Or will you do your ostrich impression of denial and get some therapy for the trauma Trump has caused you

[Trickytreesreds]

Now Holland is rattled, the goose steps are back

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1AVy4QR2gB/

[MadAmster]

Now Holland is rattled, the goose steps are back

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1AVy4QR2gB/

Variation on the pied piper theme with geese doing the following.

[MadAmster]

Update. Monday night around 19:00 on Plein 40-45 in Amsterdam Nieuw West. There's been Telegram and other chatter about rioting that evening. There's half a dozen start setting off fireworks. Police are called and a couple of cars arrive. How many do you need to sort out half a dozen? By the time the police arrive, the numbers are up to 50 and rising. Inside the next 15 minutes, the online tom tom has done its work and there's several hundred. More police arrive, not enough though. Heavy firework bombs are being set off, Cobras and similar explosives. A tram gets set alight. 6 platoons of riot police arrive and things quieten down quickly.

Tuesday. Police release the photos of the 5 "most wanted" from last week's fighting. Their faces blurred. They have until Friday to hand themselves in or their faces will be published. They have photos of around 50 others, who hadn't been as violent as these 5. Anybody suspecting they might be one of the 50 can turn themselves in between now and Friday. All of the photos will be released Friday, along with any new faces that have been paired to offences.
All day Tuesday, more online chatter that there will be more rioting that evening. Come darkness there's a medium to large police presence with the riot police close at hand on standby. There's a fair few people on the square and the streets around it. They are fathers who live in the area and street coaches, all of whom know the local youth and are trusted by them. The local youth is nowhere to be seen. Probably told by their parents to stop the rioting. The square has a huge daily market. Almost all of the stallholders are either immigrants themselves or are descendants of immigrants. The market closed 3 hours early due to the threatened violence. One vegetable stallholder said he'd have to throw at least half of his unsold produce away. From 4 o'clock in the afternoon, there was no public transport in the area, for obvious reasons.

My view is that, now they see that their actions are negatively affecting "their own", the rioting will stop. Some will have decided that for themselves, some will be under strict parental instructions. I sincerely hope I'm right.