Election Year or Fear!

[SithHappens]

Must have missed that one. Can you expand please?

Joseph Farage has got away light with just a fine for upskirting, usually it's a *** register offence.

[SithHappens]

OK so move on and offer your view on why there is an 'agenda' against one and not the other? not just rA, Sith too if you want. Not sure 'because there are lots of racists about' will do by the way

Didn't you nail it with your response? Dislike of Muslims vs no dislike of nurses?

[Andy_Faber]

Didn't you nail it with your response? Dislike of Muslims vs no dislike of nurses?

No I mean the next level down, why does the dislike exist? and what can be done about it? and what will be done about it? Thoughtful folk like you and rA should be able to elocute that, ridiculing TTR's youtube links (not you, others) isn't a solution. I don't have many answers, I do bang on about one particular issue that I know adds to the pressure cooker atmosphere but its just a catalyst to a bigger problem.

[Trickytreesreds]

There?s no point in providing evidence because it?s observational/anecdotal and all that happens with that (from me) is that you and our foul mouthed friend discredit it, I stand by it and we end up pisding everyone off with a squabble. So I suggest you just become a bit more observant, we both pick up the same news feeds

To it?s credit, despite its awful ad-spoiled presentation online, the Derby Telegraph always offers full descriptions

correct.
The biggest thing, is usually the omissions in a discription of a perp. The media/police follows an agenda and won't give a full description where certain characteristics are involved, Maybe that goes over your head RA, so I'll ask you to read closer and pay attention. We even have Labour MP's wanting Muslim grooming gangs changed, even though the statement is a fact,

THE GOVERNMENT COULD AND SHOULD HAVE RELEASED a statement that the murderer in Southport was British born and not Muslim asap. It didn't. It delayed and allowed social media to take over. Ironically the the biggest lie came from a **** stirrer in India, who said he was a boater.

As for you vilification of Farage, you are wrong and reading to many Guardian hates pieces.
Listen to him from 9 minutes raise the issues and talk about himself being demonised. Thats your truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM7JAXkR6u4

[Trickytreesreds]

Hmmm…Tricky did actually suggest that ‘the rioters weren’t that far wrong…’. They were, imo, totally wrong at every level.

Not sure how I’m ‘missing the point’ when you’ve just virtually repeated exactly what I said when agreeing with another poster yesterday.

Here we go, wrong again, apologise for that.

I said I did NOT support any rioting, but understood why their anger flowed over. Again, it was something the authorities could have diffused, but didn't

[Trickytreesreds]

Joseph Farage has got away light with just a fine for upskirting, usually it's a *** register offence.

correct. How is that Farges fault?
You are just like RA is in your selected choices where justice is concerned.

Did this one outrage you, where the law is concerned, or was that Farages fault?

Muslim abuser who 'didn't know' that *** with a girl of 13 was illegal is spared jail
Adil Rashid admitted travelling to Nottingham and having *** with the girl
He met the 13-year-old on Facebook and they communicated by texts and phone for two months before they met
He was educated in a madrassa and 'had little experience of women'
Said he had been taught 'women are no more worthy than a lollipop that has been dropped on the ground'
Added he was reluctant to have *** but that he was 'tempted by [the girl]'


NB, its crimes like this and a soft judiciary that fuels Muslim outrage , knowing that their religion is used as an excuse for crimes like this.

[MadAmster]

THE GOVERNMENT COULD AND SHOULD HAVE RELEASED a statement that the murderer in Southport was British born and not Muslim asap. It didn't. It delayed and allowed social media to take over. Ironically the the biggest lie came from a **** stirrer in India, who said he was a boater.

Murders on the 29th of July. It was reported on the 30th that he was born in Cardiff and raised as a Christian. Futher press report on the 31st.

[ramAnag]

correct. How is that Farges fault?
You are just like RA is in your selected choices where justice is concerned.

Did this one outrage you, where the law is concerned, or was that Farages fault?

Muslim abuser who 'didn't know' that *** with a girl of 13 was illegal is spared jail
Adil Rashid admitted travelling to Nottingham and having *** with the girl
He met the 13-year-old on Facebook and they communicated by texts and phone for two months before they met
He was educated in a madrassa and 'had little experience of women'
Said he had been taught 'women are no more worthy than a lollipop that has been dropped on the ground'
Added he was reluctant to have *** but that he was 'tempted by [the girl]'


NB, its crimes like this and a soft judiciary that fuels Muslim outrage , knowing that their religion is used as an excuse for crimes like this.

I think that’s part of Sith’s point, Tricky.
It isn’t Farage’s fault what his pervy nephew does, although I suspect you would have been rapidly asking questions had it been a relation of Starmer who had been upskirting and avoided serious punishment.
It also isn’t the fault of Muslims in general what you report Adil Rashid to have done.

So far from being selective, we’ve all heard of perverted vicars, corrupt coppers, dodgy teachers, crooked accountants, and pa edophile sports coaches in recent times. Most will recognise that they’re all just a tiny minority. Unfortunately you are unable to recognise that the same is true of Muslims and that the vast majority are neither exploitative or extremist.

[ramAnag]

OK so move on and offer your view on why there is an 'agenda' against one and not the other? not just rA, Sith too if you want. Not sure 'because there are lots of racists about' will do by the way

Obvious really isn’t it?
Nurses and other ‘medics’ are generally and rightly highly respected and those like Letby and Shipman are considered to be isolated exceptions.
Muslims are generally not so highly respected, partly unfortunately because there are indeed a lot of racists about, partly because there is a culture clash which some seek to take advantage of and partly because of the exploitative behaviour which has undeniably been perpetrated by a minority.

[ramAnag]

Here we go, wrong again, apologise for that.

I said I did NOT support any rioting, but understood why their anger flowed over. Again, it was something the authorities could have diffused, but didn't

Did you or did you not write in October, ‘the rioters weren’t that far wrong…’?

[Andy_Faber]

Obvious really isn’t it?
Nurses and other ‘medics’ are generally and rightly highly respected and those like Letby and Shipman are considered to be isolated exceptions.
Muslims are generally not so highly respected, partly unfortunately because there are indeed a lot of racists about, partly because there is a culture clash which some seek to take advantage of and partly because of the exploitative behaviour which has undeniably been perpetrated by a minority.

Way more one dimensional than I expected, ah well...

[Geoff Parkstone]

correct. How is that Farges fault?
You are just like RA is in your selected choices where justice is concerned.

Did this one outrage you, where the law is concerned, or was that Farages fault?

Muslim abuser who 'didn't know' that *** with a girl of 13 was illegal is spared jail
Adil Rashid admitted travelling to Nottingham and having *** with the girl
He met the 13-year-old on Facebook and they communicated by texts and phone for two months before they met
He was educated in a madrassa and 'had little experience of women'
Said he had been taught 'women are no more worthy than a lollipop that has been dropped on the ground'
Added he was reluctant to have *** but that he was 'tempted by [the girl]'


NB, its crimes like this and a soft judiciary that fuels Muslim outrage , knowing that their religion is used as an excuse for crimes like this.

13 is older than average experiential age in Nottingham isn't it? A relative veteran

[Geoff Parkstone]

Way more one dimensional than I expected, ah well...

Hmm now let me add a dimension. I recently spent longer than I had wanted in hospital. My "favourite" nurse in terms of empathy, competence and being all round nice was Moslem. So applying rA logic should I love or hate her?

It's not about generic stereotyping. There are good and bad in every aspect of life. Take a view of the individual, not a wide group as they will never always be the same as all others. It's lazy, presumptive and simply wrong to tar everyone with the same brush

[ramAnag]

Way more one dimensional than I expected, ah well...

Really? Sorry to disappoint. I’ll await your more elaborate explanation with interest.

[ramAnag]

It's not about generic stereotyping. There are good and bad in every aspect of life. Take a view of the individual, not a wide group as they will never always be the same as all others. It's lazy, presumptive and simply wrong to tar everyone with the same brush

Agreed and exactly my point in post #2513.