Election Year or Fear!

[Geoff Parkstone]

Small world example. Some years ago I was governor of local primary school. The chairman, a local vicar - isn't it always - was ineffectual and had been in office many years with a lackey as deputy. There was considerable pressure on him to step down, which he finally did. He nominated his deputy as new Chairman and himself as new deputy!! He seriously though it would heal the rift in the governing body by this. He was seriously deluded.

[ramAnag]

Let’s not forget last time round. Elected in 2016 only to be dumped four years later. What makes you think it’ll be any different this time?
He’ll be in his 80’s assuming he’s still around, and the Democrats surely won’t be as inept, or the electorate so gullible, next time.

[ramAnag]

Small world example. Some years ago I was governor of local primary school. The chairman, a local vicar - isn't it always - was ineffectual and had been in office many years with a lackey as deputy. There was considerable pressure on him to step down, which he finally did. He nominated his deputy as new Chairman and himself as new deputy!! He seriously though it would heal the rift in the governing body by this. He was seriously deluded.

Assuming he wasn’t elected?

[SithHappens]

Let’s not forget last time round. Elected in 2016 only to be dumped four years later. What makes you think it’ll be any different this time?
He’ll be in his 80’s assuming he’s still around, and the Democrats surely won’t be as inept, or the electorate so gullible, next time.

But he's convinced he won then, so will no doubt be confident he would again.

[Andy_Faber]

But he's convinced he won then, so will no doubt be confident he would again.

Nor was he 'dumped', he lost narrowly. And this time round (so far) he's focussing on delivery not a staff merry go round. If he resolves Ukraine in any way at all IMO his approval rating will shoot up (amongst Americans, certainly not me if he he resolves it in Russia's favour)

[Andy_Faber]

Seems Jonathan Reynolds has been telling Porky Pies on his CV too. So I have a serious question: Should I rename the Careless Tories thread as 'Careless Members of the current administration'?

[Geoff Parkstone]

Assuming he wasn’t elected?

Correct. 2 votes for him and his acolyte, 13 against

[ramAnag]

Correct. 2 votes for him and his acolyte, 13 against

Good stuff. Justice!

[ramAnag]

Nor was he 'dumped', he lost narrowly. And this time round (so far) he's focussing on delivery not a staff merry go round. If he resolves Ukraine in any way at all IMO his approval rating will shoot up (amongst Americans, certainly not me if he he resolves it in Russia's favour)

Well, in so much as Biden received more votes than any other US Presidential candidate ever, Trump did get dumped. He just didn’t handle it terribly well.

Interestingly, despite most of them probably being unable to find it on a map, the majority of US citizens (including Republicans), are allegedly very sympathetic to Ukraine and equally critical of Russia.

P.S. If you really want to you could just rename it ‘Politicians careless with the truth. Who’da thought?’

[MadAmster]

Will any of us?

Bloody well hope so, Sith. I'll be a mere 71 summers young come Monday and intend being around long enough to see the Rams in an FA Cup Final and/or in a competitive match in the Johan Cruijff Arena.

AF, how's about... Careless Tories of whatever hue.

My opinion is that the USA is speeding headlong towards being an oligarchy and that there's a good chance there won't be Presidential elections in 2028. Trump told Christians in the run up to last year's election that, if they voted for him then, they wouldn't have to in 2028. One assumes that he was hinting at there not being elections in the future.

[ramAnag]

Seems Jonathan Reynolds has been telling Porky Pies on his CV too. So I have a serious question: Should I rename the Careless Tories thread as 'Careless Members of the current administration'?

To knit two recent aspects of this thread together you may wish to include Trump amongst your examples of ‘carelessness’, Andy.

In an attempt to make a positive point about his ancestral longevity he appears to have been a little careless about both the age and state of health/mental acuity of his parents.

[MadAmster]

What do the people mentioned in this thread have in common?

They're all politicians.

They lie.

It's part of the job description, it would seem.

[Geoff Parkstone]

What do the people mentioned in this thread have in common?

They're all politicians.

They lie.

It's part of the job description, it would seem.

Always has been, always will be and they as a group never learn from their peers being outed. Sadly I feel the outings are but the tip of the iceberg and 90% or more of their collective lies go undetected.

[ramAnag]

Always has been, always will be and they as a group never learn from their peers being outed. Sadly I feel the outings are but the tip of the iceberg and 90% or more of their collective lies go undetected.

Probably very true, although - despite all the inherent dangers - I suspect the internet will have a role to play in terms of both future accusations and accountability.

[Andy_Faber]

To knit two recent aspects of this thread together you may wish to include Trump amongst your examples of ?carelessness?, Andy.
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Regrettably I don?t think his actions are careless using the usual definition, but they are being done without caring about what ?people? think which I guess is another form of carelessness. What he?s doing is certainly quite deliberate

IMO if he continues down the line of appeasing Russia, China will occupy Taiwan knowing it?s ?just A transaction?, the ostracising of Russia will disintegrate and the new world order will see UK and EU in the political equivalent of League 1