Election Year or Fear!

[ramAnag]

You ain?t gonna win GP, just give it up and let rA claim ?victory?

Hmmm, seems a bit uncalled for. I thought GP and I were having a perfectly polite and reasonable discussion but apparently you feel the need to shove your oar in. I didn’t know it was about ‘claiming victory’ either…probably says more about you than anyone else.

Back on topic…I suppose you’ve hit the nail on the head there, GP. It is, to an extent, about taste. To me the BBC isn’t ‘overly WOKE’ at all. Doesn’t make me right, just perhaps slightly less reactionary than you.

[swaledale]

Hmmm, seems a bit uncalled for. I thought GP and I were having a perfectly polite and reasonable discussion but apparently you feel the need to shove your oar in. I didn’t know it was about ‘claiming victory’ either…probably says more about you than anyone else.

Back on topic…I suppose you’ve hit the nail on the head there, GP. It is, to an extent, about taste. To me the BBC isn’t ‘overly WOKE’ at all. Doesn’t make me right, just perhaps slightly less reactionary than you.

This is the BBC that has platformed Farage more times than any other politician over the past decade?

I guess some men just can't stomach a woman doing a job they consider to be a mans? Never mind I guess at some stage the old guard will die off and it will become unremarkable that a woman can present a show on anything as long she has the knowledge. For me, I've not actually thought that for example Alex Scott is noticeably worse as a pundit than say Roy Keene, but the maybe I don't get my panties in a bunch over nothing.

[swaledale]

And the Mail was defined as right leaning....

The Mail is and always has been full on Fascist, not so subtly disguised as "right" leaning, plenty of articles both historical and current to demonstrate that this is the case.

Mind you it is very funny that they bung Johnson a cool million quid for his cobblers and then have to pull an article re trump.

[swaledale]

Professor Alexis Jay headed a SEVEN year inquiry into the grooming and raping gangs, culminating in a report, published in 2022 containing 20 odd recommendations. The whole process is said to have cost ?200M.

Form 2022 to 2024, the Conservative government did NOWT to implement a single of the report's recommendations.

Six months into a Labour government, what do we have? On Sunday Wes Streeting said on LauraK that the cabinet was looking to implement recommendations and was actively working on it. the next day, the Home Secretary announces in the House that failing to report this type of offence will become a criminal offence and should hit the Statute Books this year. Positive action that even you should appreciate.

In my humble opinion, Cons and Reform should now STFU on this and back the government in their efforts to implement the Jay Recommendations. Once implemented, those measures should be monitored and amended when and where necessary.

Yesterday, Professor Jay said Cons/Reform should stop politicising it. A further inquiry (MA - which will take God alone knows how long and how much more money) isn't necessary. What is necessary is her recommendations getting implemented. I, for one, fully agree with her.

Another humble opinion of mine is that Prof Jay knows a damned sight more about this than TTR or anybody else on here, including me.

To be fair a Gnat knows more than TTR!

[Geoff Parkstone]

This is the BBC that has platformed Farage more times than any other politician over the past decade?

I guess some men just can't stomach a woman doing a job they consider to be a mans? Never mind I guess at some stage the old guard will die off and it will become unremarkable that a woman can present a show on anything as long she has the knowledge. For me, I've not actually thought that for example Alex Scott is noticeably worse as a pundit than say Roy Keene, but the maybe I don't get my panties in a bunch over nothing.

Or you lack the quality of discernment 😄

[Andy_Faber]

Swale?is just another example of an ill informed person spouting crap."
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Is this me taking paraphrasing too far?

[ramAnag]

Is this me taking paraphrasing too far?

‘Moderator’ - common synonyms…arbiter, intermediary, pacifier, alleviator, judge, peacemaker, conciliator, adjudicator, diplomat.
Just saying, in case of any confusion.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Did I really say that or is it a piece of moderator trickery

[swaledale]

Or you lack the quality of discernment 😄

Ah but that is subjective, and as we know one persons opinion often varies from another's. Objectively, it has never bothered me as to the gender, ***ual orientation or ethnicity of a presenter, subjectively I am irritated by a persons tone of voice, presenting style or if its obvious they don't have much knowledge of the subject matter.

To claim that a woman can't have much knowledge about men's football, isn't discerning, just ***ist.

[swaledale]

Did I really say that or is it a piece of moderator trickery

I'd be surprised if you did, but who knows?

[swaledale]

‘Moderator’ - common synonyms…arbiter, intermediary, pacifier, alleviator, judge, peacemaker, conciliator, adjudicator, diplomat.
Just saying, in case of any confusion.

Mm I guess 1 out of 9 ain't bad!

[Andy_Faber]

Did I really say that or is it a piece of moderator trickery

No you didn?t I paraphrased in extremis, but I had my forum member hat on not my moderator hat

[MadAmster]

5 days away and pedancy still rules. Fortunately, for me, I'm away from another 3 days from tomorrow and offline again.

Can we try, as the adults I used to think most of us were, to stop being right fighters and be more accepting that "Fred's" opinion is miles removed from "Joe's" and that both are probably wrong?

We'll have to disagree... a phrase that works wonders and prevents these never ending streams of panto like "oh yes it is, oh no it's not", which is what these exchanges turn into after the first few back and forths. Grow up!

[MadAmster]

Too late to do an edit...

... agree to disagree...

[swaledale]

Too late to do an edit...

... agree to disagree...

I guess that's one way of stopping debate! The thing is, if its a matter of opinion then fine one can do that if on the other hand if its a matter of fact then and lets face it we are in a post truth world, which often gets repeated on here by a certain poster then allowing it to go unchallenged isn't on.