Election Year or Fear!

[macstheman]

Mac's level headed and able to be detached from the fray!!

I can balance a tray of booze on me nut!

[ramAnag]

I can balance a tray of booze on me nut!

Hedigree?

At a time of austerity by any other name, when people are facing genuinely hard times and numerous shortages the UK transfer window is apparently worth around 2.7 billion GBP. That’s 2,700 million!
Just sayin’, but food for thought.

[Andy_Faber]

I am but RA generally doesn't which rather proves my point that your disappearance is generally due to you not willing to justify your point of view. Which goes back a long way and is rather childish, if your unwilling to debate then don't, fair enough, but throwing casual or provocative comments in and then not responding after that is pointless.

You claim that you can't be bothered to debate with those with blinkered views, yet both RA and myself, have a wide range of views, indeed on multiple occasions I have actually agreed with some of the points you have made and said so.

But when your response to the majority of people in the UK aren't fixated on immigration, you quote the fact that opinion polls suggest otherwise. Which is fine, but as you must surely know, it rather depends upon the question asked. I suspect most people if asked, Are you concerned about immigration? May answer yes. If they were asked which are you most concerned about? The economy, The NHS, Education, Public Transport, Climate change, Immigration, then the answers would be different, yet would still need to be taken with caution.

I?ll repeat what I said to rA: Mac is right, we should have better things to do than score silly irrelevant points of one another. I'll discuss any points I make with with those with open minds but I've insufficient time to argue with the blinkered

[ramAnag]

I?ll repeat what I said to rA: Mac is right, we should have better things to do than score silly irrelevant points of one another. I'll discuss any points I make with with those with open minds but I've insufficient time to argue with the blinkered

There’s a lot of it about these days. Those who think saying something often enough eventually makes it true.
It doesn’t, but if you won’t , or can’t, answer straightforward, sensible, on topic questions there’s nothing I can do other than wonder…why?

[Andy_Faber]

There’s a lot of it about these days. Those who think saying something often enough eventually makes it true.
It doesn’t, but if you won’t , or can’t, answer straightforward, sensible, on topic questions there’s nothing I can do other than wonder…why?

I refer you to post 3943.

[MadAmster]

Hedigree?

At a time of austerity by any other name, when people are facing genuinely hard times and numerous shortages the UK transfer window is apparently worth around 2.7 billion GBP. That’s 2,700 million!
Just sayin’, but food for thought.

According to dear old Aunty beeb, the total topped 3 billion GBP

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c20755y05ydo

[Andy_Faber]

According to dear old Aunty beeb, the total topped 3 billion GBP

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/a...s/c20755y05ydo

Supply and demand in action, and anyone who watches tv feeds to machine. As with so many things, there are no clean hands

[ramAnag]

I refer you to post 3943.

Loads, but then, as you know, I only cut it last Friday and given the current conditions, any subsequent growth has been about as scarce as your capacity for offering intelligent reasoned response to reasonable questions.

[ramAnag]

According to dear old Aunty beeb, the total topped 3 billion GBP

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/a...s/c20755y05ydo

I’m sure they’re correct. Bit of a paradox though isn’t it? Football clubs having so much wealth while society’s general infrastructure seems close to collapse.

[MadAmster]

I’m sure they’re correct. Bit of a paradox though isn’t it? Football clubs having so much wealth while society’s general infrastructure seems close to collapse.

Int capitalism grand?

Football is the biggest spectator sport going. That's why TV companies pay exorbitant amounts for the broadcasting rights. As game will be broadcast, companies will pay big bucks to advertise/sponsor on TV and at the stadiums. That gives the clubs a massive income. Players, not surprisingly, want their share of the spoils. Then it's "if you won't pay me 500K a week, club X will". Clubs cave and pay the daft amounts. Then there's the transfer fees. Clubs know that the other clubs have a huge wedge. You want our player, you pay what we want as opposed to what it's worth. As my physio said to me just now, visit all the old grounds (he's just been to Liverpool) and the housing around the ground is old and decrepit and obviously houses some of the poorer in society and they are among the first to shell out for a season ticket...

[swaledale]

I?ll repeat what I said to rA: Mac is right, we should have better things to do than score silly irrelevant points of one another. I'll discuss any points I make with with those with open minds but I've insufficient time to argue with the blinkered

And we are blinkered in what way?

[swaledale]

Loads, but then, as you know, I only cut it last Friday and given the current conditions, any subsequent growth has been about as scarce as your capacity for offering intelligent reasoned response to reasonable questions.

Apparently we are blinkered RA! Hence his refusal to explain his position on such varied subjects as what he means by "good bullying", why he disapproves of Diversity Inclusion and Equality, why he is uncomfortable with the number of people with an ethnic background in the media, why he seems to believe totally what opinion polls say and why to express scepticism about what they actually indicate is blinkered.

Its interesting (vaguely) that whilst lambasting me for criticism and attacking him personally (guilty as charged M'Lord) it having been pointed out that you don't take that line, he has changed his tune to its because we are blinkered!

Of course it could be he has views and doesn't like them being challenged, which is odd because that's the point of a debate surely?

So unless one holds the same views as AF and largely agree with him , he doesn't engage beyond some cryptic and usually incorrect response.

[Andy_Faber]

Loads, but then, as you know, I only cut it last Friday and given the current conditions, any subsequent growth has been about as scarce as your capacity for offering intelligent reasoned response to reasonable questions.

You could always get Swale round to call it a Nazi, that should do the trick

[swaledale]

I’m sure they’re correct. Bit of a paradox though isn’t it? Football clubs having so much wealth while society’s general infrastructure seems close to collapse.

I am proud to say, I have never contributed to SKY or any other such platform and therefore have in no way contributed to this rather unseemly situation. In fact these days I'm more likely to be found at my local football team ground, watching players who play football for sport.

[ramAnag]

Int capitalism grand?

As my physio said to me just now, visit all the old grounds (he's just been to Liverpool) and the housing around the ground is old and decrepit and obviously houses some of the poorer in society and they are among the first to shell out for a season ticket...

Spot on that, MA, although I’m not sure they can still afford that season ticket. Anfield is the classic example, but Goodison was much the same and Old Trafford isn’t far behind. The stadiums are a monument to wealth and inequality surrounded by some of the poorest housing in Europe. Wonder what Messrs Shankly and Clough would have had to say.