Election Year or Fear!

[Geoff Parkstone]

As do I. Super, smashing, great

[Trickytreesreds]

Hmmm, says the man who wrongly predicted Starmer?s political demise and also told us to ?watch and learn? from Forest.
How?s that one working out? I think we all already knew that sacking your best manager in years was a really bad idea.
You also need to tread carefully regarding that Rayner suggestion of yours. She resigned. Whether she was ?tax dodging? or made a mistake remains to be proved.

. She resigned RA. It?s clear she was not on the path of righteousness.
All politicians get dirty mitts.
The irony of Rayner, was her spitting venom at Tory sleeze etc.
Turns out even being paid a fortune by unions wasn?t enough for potty mouth. Let?s also add in the public protection for her boyfriend and moving his goods around in government BMW X5s shall we for good measure. Or should I be careful?

[MadAmster]

Credit to 47 for getting a temporary cease fire in place. And that, thus far, is all it is. A temporary halt to the bombing.

Like most folk, I really hope this becomes a permanent peace. However, alongside the 20 points in the plan, there's one, IMO, pressing problem that needs to solved if there is to be lasting peace. That is almost 80 years in which "settlers" have stolen land from Palestinians in Israel, bulldozed their homes or simply taken them over, burning and bulldozing of Palestinian olive groves, assault and murder of Palestinians. All without any settler being arrested, tried and, if found guilty, sentenced and jailed. It is this that is one of the major reasons Hamas exists. Failure to remedy it will see more attacks on Israeli Jews and Zionists which will instigate more bombing of Gaza and the West Bank.

If the root cause isn't addressed, we will get the same outcome.

[Trickytreesreds]

Seems he?s a popular bloke amongst people who actually matter in this conflict

For all the **** thrown at Trump, not all of it is justified, just personal dislikes.
Compared to Biden, he?s a saint.

In his last office , how many countries did he attack invade?
Who of his predecessors deported more than Trump? Attacked more countries, republican or democrat?
Which of his off spring was protected by the current president from prison?
Who lowered the borders, allowing 11 million illegals to flood in?

He talks like a berk, I accept, but if I was American Id be fuming at Biden/ Obama for dragging the US into the gutter in many ways

[Trickytreesreds]

oops I may have got an extra "0" in that number!! But its still a lot

Unless Jews are involved, the left don?t react.
Muslim on Muslim crimes are horrific in the world story. Yet only Israel gets bad press, because like our Labour lovers here, anti semitism is rife

[Trickytreesreds]

Credit to 47 for getting a temporary cease fire in place. And that, thus far, is all it is. A temporary halt to the bombing.

Like most folk, I really hope this becomes a permanent peace. However, alongside the 20 points in the plan, there's one, IMO, pressing problem that needs to solved if there is to be lasting peace. That is almost 80 years in which "settlers" have stolen land from Palestinians in Israel, bulldozed their homes or simply taken them over, burning and bulldozing of Palestinian olive groves, assault and murder of Palestinians. All without any settler being arrested, tried and, if found guilty, sentenced and jailed. It is this that is one of the major reasons Hamas exists. Failure to remedy it will see more attacks on Israeli Jews and Zionists which will instigate more bombing of Gaza and the West Bank.

If the root cause isn't addressed, we will get the same outcome.

Meanwhile Hamas are emerging and rounding up Palestinians and executing them, under the guise of collaboration etc. Will there be mass marching, to express outrage at these acts, or will the Jews get the blame for this as well?

[MadAmster]

Meanwhile Hamas are emerging and rounding up Palestinians and executing them, under the guise of collaboration etc. Will there be mass marching, to express outrage at these acts, or will the Jews get the blame for this as well?

I'll investigate as there's been no mention of it over here.

It seems you are right. Is Hamas going to prove to be the stumbling block that sees the renewal of hostilities that will result on what's left of Gaza being reduced to rubble? I fear it probably is.

[ramAnag]

As do I. Super, smashing, great

Jeremy Bowen…probably the best known BBC war correspondent, currently the Middle East correspondent. A man to take notice of imo.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Jeremy Bowen…probably the best known BBC war correspondent, currently the Middle East correspondent. A man to take notice of imo.

Never heard of him, but I imagine that's reciprocal....

[ramAnag]

Meanwhile Hamas are emerging and rounding up Palestinians and executing them, under the guise of collaboration etc. Will there be mass marching, to express outrage at these acts, or will the Jews get the blame for this as well?

Just for information. I know of no one personally, and certainly no one on here who has ever expressed support for Hamas.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Anyway, seems I'm wrong about seeing the back of pro Palestine marches. Yesterday another big march in London seemingly led by that well known non anti Semite Mr Corbyn.

Strange, there is a form of peace there, the Palestinian civilians are hopeful/optimistic of an end to hostilities - although if TTR is right we will now see Hamas on other Palestine internecine killings. So what's this latest protest about, or couldn't these guys get their flights to Gaza to help out organised yet??

[Geoff Parkstone]

Just for information. I know of no one personally, and certainly no one on here who has ever expressed support for Hamas.

I know a few...albeit I don't think they would do a Shamima Begum. Probably more paper tigers.

[SithHappens]

Quite happy our MP Lindsey Farsnworth is voicing opposition to a planned housing estate on green belt land in Kilburn.

[Andy_Faber]

Quite happy our MP Lindsey Farsnworth is voicing opposition to a planned housing estate on green belt land in Kilburn.

That sort of development is getting okd regularly so good luck to you/her in stopping it if that?s what you want. IMO Tants Meadow would become even more of a bottleneck unless an alternative access was built. Is there a consultation planned?

[SithHappens]

That sort of development is getting okd regularly so good luck to you/her in stopping it if that?s what you want. IMO Tants Meadow would become even more of a bottleneck unless an alternative access was built. Is there a consultation planned?

Yeah traffic won't be great.

Local amenities too such as schools and doctors will have more strain on them.

There is a meeting at the chapel next week to discuss further. There is a date in November set for getting objections in.

They are trying to get it reclassified as grey belt of course, doesn't seem to meet the requirements from what I've seen. Seems grey belt is supposed to be land thats derelict but sits within the green belt. I wouldn't describe the area they are looking to build on as poor quality or previously developed. I know there are other rules such as sustainability they will probably use to push it through.

As you say though I think they will get the go ahead anyway despite objections.