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[Geoff Parkstone]

No, they should pay the producers far more for those goods but can hold the prices to consumer where they are as they arent desperately out of line. eg they are selling banana for 15p, inclusive of transport from say Costa Rica - they probably pay 2p per 100 bananas to the growers which is criminal. And thats fair trade

[Geoff Parkstone]

Just bought 2 ribeye steaks from the supermarket. Total weight 374 grammes, cost 17.44 Euro which translates to 15.15 GBP. How's that compare to UK prices?

Couldnt tell you as havent seen ribeyes that small!! but ones I usually get are maybe 7-8 quid but perhaps 275gm (Sainsbury price Aldi match!)

[ramAnag]

No, they should pay the producers far more for those goods but can hold the prices to consumer where they are as they arent desperately out of line. eg they are selling banana for 15p, inclusive of transport from say Costa Rica - they probably pay 2p per 100 bananas to the growers which is criminal. And thats fair trade

Bloody leftie!

[SithHappens]

Just bought 2 ribeye steaks from the supermarket. Total weight 374 grammes, cost 17.44 Euro which translates to 15.15 GBP. How's that compare to UK prices?

Maybe a little more than the likes of morrisons but cheaper than a butchers

[SithHappens]

Too much information young Sith.

I’m not sure how much more unhealthy a Big Mac is than the more traditional Friday night fish and chips of yesteryear. Everything in moderation, even MA’s steak which used to be considered a healthy pre match meal but is now a health risk according to many.

Think my point was that the big 3 UK Supermarkets (Tesco, Sainsburys and Asda) are said to have made 4.3 BILLION GBP profit in the year ending March 2025. At a time of, in everything but name, austerity for many…is that something we find acceptable?

I don't think fish and chips is as bad as you think. Those supermarkets caned it in during covid didn't they.

I dunno on the overall profit, if you break it down to amount per customer i bet it doesn't equate to that much.

[SithHappens]

No, they should pay the producers far more for those goods but can hold the prices to consumer where they are as they arent desperately out of line. eg they are selling banana for 15p, inclusive of transport from say Costa Rica - they probably pay 2p per 100 bananas to the growers which is criminal. And thats fair trade

We all have a choice though. We can choose to have milk delivered, shop locally at grocery butchers etc. But largely we don't for convenience/cost so we all enable them when we choose them.

[SithHappens]

We used to always buy our steak from the butchers. It got crazy on price though. We found to buy from the butchers was probably double the cost of say Aldi.

So that's me making my choice as per my above post, so it's my fault really but given a choice of 30 quid for 2 fillets, or 14 quid I'll go 14..

We are getting sausages though from Denby Pottery farm shop Saturday though. Probably double the price but yummy.

I did do an online purchase of steak and few weeks back though, got a big piece of fillet which made 6 8 oz ish steaks and 2 10 oz rumps for 50 quid.

Cut them and froze, had 2 fillet and the rumps and beat the supermarket steak hands down.

[ramAnag]

We used to always buy our steak from the butchers. It got crazy on price though. We found to buy from the butchers was probably double the cost of say Aldi.

So that's me making my choice as per my above post, so it's my fault really but given a choice of 30 quid for 2 fillets, or 14 quid I'll go 14..

We are getting sausages though from Denby Pottery farm shop Saturday though. Probably double the price but yummy.

I did do an online purchase of steak and few weeks back though, got a big piece of fillet which made 6 8 oz ish steaks and 2 10 oz rumps for 50 quid.

Cut them and froze, had 2 fillet and the rumps and beat the supermarket steak hands down.

But then, in line with your farm shop sausages, there’s sometimes/all too often no comparison between steak - or a joint - from a good butcher and supermarket steak. So I’d prefer to pay thirty quid for quality than 14 quid for something that takes the evening to chew through and has half the flavour.

[SithHappens]

No, they should pay the producers far more for those goods but can hold the prices to consumer where they are as they arent desperately out of line. eg they are selling banana for 15p, inclusive of transport from say Costa Rica - they probably pay 2p per 100 bananas to the growers which is criminal. And thats fair trade

But then, in line with your farm shop sausages, there’s sometimes/all too often no comparison between steak - or a joint - from a good butcher and supermarket steak. So I’d prefer to pay thirty quid for quality than 14 quid for something that takes the evening to chew through and has half the flavour.

There definitely sometimes is you are right. I'm very fussy with steak but have worked out where to buy from to get decent

[ramAnag]

Aston Villa v Maccabi Tel Aviv seems to be a rare example of football throwing politics into the spotlight with politicians falling over themselves to score points off each other.
To be clear, it isn’t the government who have issued the ban. It is a combination of those responsible for ground safety and the local police and yet all the usual subjects are queuing up to hurl the charge of anti semitism at the government/PM.
I imagine, especially now given Starmer’s involvement, that the proposed ban will be rapidly overthrown, as it probably should be. Can’t imagine it being any more challenging for the relevant authorities than Villa v Brum anyway. Sincerely hope not.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Going off thread a bit here, rA, "to be clear" we were talking sausages. As for hurling charges, I dont seem to remember you holding back from doing exactly the same when the political boot was on the right foot, not the left. Its the nature of the beast - someone always seeks to blame the government, even when the have **** their own underpants. I dont suppose said government even bother listening to it, its so tired and predictible regardless of where it comes from and who its aimed at

[ramAnag]

Going off thread a bit here, rA, "to be clear" we were talking sausages. As for hurling charges, I dont seem to remember you holding back from doing exactly the same when the political boot was on the right foot, not the left. Its the nature of the beast - someone always seeks to blame the government, even when the have **** their own underpants. I dont suppose said government even bother listening to it, its so tired and predictible regardless of where it comes from and who its aimed at

Hmmm, don’t recall an incident of me or anyone else on here making political capital out of a decision by the football authorities. Maybe you can come up with one.
Perhaps the BLM stuff or Remembrance Day row is as close as football has got to politics, that I remember anyway, over the last few years, but they were a little different.
I just thought the various reactions of various politicians told a story about what is going on at the moment. That you don’t share that concern/view is no great surprise or problem.

[Geoff Parkstone]

God you are so literal, are you on the spectrum?. My observation was not specifically about football but rather about the way everything gets twisted into political capital, no matter how disconnected it is. By right, by left, by those with no real preference.

[MadAmster]

A football club and the police decide that they are unable to guarantee safety at a particular game. Visiting supporters get banned.

The government gets the blame despite the PM having said that the decision is wrong.

There really is no cure for stupid.

November last year, Ajax v Macabbi Tel Aviv here in Amsterdam. Pre match, Macabbi fans are filmed tearing down and burning Palestinian flags, they are uttering racist and anti semitic chants, quite likely forgetting that Ajax was founded by Jews and is still seen as a Jewish club, they attack people. Post match, young folk of North African descent are criss crossing the city on scooters looking for, and finding, Macabbi fans.

The Macabbi fans were not what one might term "decent folk"

[Geoff Parkstone]

It sounds like the police decision could well be right then based on past performance MA, or are you suggesting that the Maccabites should be well able to look after themselves? So its nothing to do with a political decision so why (a) blame the government or (b) why does Starmer have to express an opinion? Its a public order issue "of detail", not something that needs PM intervention. Sometimes gobs are best left unopened