Election Year or Fear!

[MadAmster]

Out of interest, are you entitled to vote in the Netherlands or the UK?

Short story long

Left the UK in '84, disenfranchised in '99 having lived abroad 15 years.

I wasn't allowed to vote in NL until "B" happened as I wasn't a Dutch citizen. Following "B", travelling with the family looked like being crap as we'd have to join differing queues at passport control. As I'd lived here for more than 15 years, was married to a Dutch woman , had children born here AND a clean criminal record, all I had to do was fill in a form, pay 185 Euro and I got citizenship in 2017. Since then I've been eligible to vote in NL.

In '22, the UK Election Act was passed and I've been eligible to vote in the UK as well. I have chosen not to register to vote in UK General Elections as I've not paid UK tax since the end of '85 and haven't lived there since '84. Sold my UK house in '86.

[MadAmster]

As an aside, how's this for the rise and fall of a political party.

2022 Pieter Omtzigt of the CDA fell out with the party, left and became a one man faction in Parliament. In the ensuing months he set up a new party. He was very popular as he had always worked for the people and dug up several serious issues that government and/or governmental departments had caused meaning tens of thousands of people had been done over. The biggest scandal he discovered was that the tax people had forced some 20K people to pay back benefits received "to which they hadn't been entitled and had fraudulently claimed. A la Post Office scandal, some were jailed for fraud, marriages broke up, kids were taken into care, folk went bankrupt, businesses went bankrupt and, when challenged by people, the tax office said it was all above board. Some people got in touch with Omtzigt and he decided to investigate. He's a terrier, like a dog after a rabbit. He proved that they'd been done over by the tax office. An inquiry agreed with his findings and ordered reparations. Also a la PO scandal, 90% of the victims have yet to receive compensation.

He set up a new party for the '23 election and, as he was a popular politician with a track record of genuinely being there for the people, got 20 seats. As an MP he was brilliant for the populace. However, he was now also party leader and wanted control of everything and was poor at delegation. He had a burn out, didn't recover and left politics. That resulted in the party not delivering what people had expected (they were in the coalition). The '25 election sees them go from 20 seats to zero. Heroes to zeroes in 2 years.

[Geoff Parkstone]

sounds a bit like the Tories in this country! may be gone at the next election

[ramAnag]

sounds a bit like the Tories in this country!

Only they lost 244(!) in under five years.

[MadAmster]

Only they lost 244(!) in under five years.

Not totally wiped out though.

[swaledale]

Almost as dumb as someone who thinks it's serious....

Oh I know not to take anything you post seriously! Still a dumb post because it wasn't funny.

[swaledale]

MA: failed to get appropriate licence from council when letting out her home after vacating it to move to #11. Hardly up there even with the Rayner stamp duty omission but how many more times will standing cabinet ministers make stupid oversights that basic (accurate) professional advise could avoid? Its just plain stupid but no big deal, although at a wider level it makes you question the fitness to govern if they keep cocking up on simple things.

Specially for rA, it seems the toolmakers lad has a cabinet full of tools.

On the other hand, if a very busy person delegates a task to another person, its not unreasonable to expect said task to be done is it? Hardly just plain stupid, which I'd agree could be applied to Rayner who clearly didn't bother to check in her error. I'm guessing even you, perfectly organised as you are have found out at a later date the somebody you thought was going to do something on your behalf, hadn't done it.

But then maybe not, as it seems you have plenty of time on your hands!

[swaledale]

Oh proven by Swale disagreeing. So I say again, proven when? And how, and by whom?

Proven by yourself admitting that it was purely anecdotal, based on FB or other social media or a specific incident which you or somebody you had spoken to had witnessed and had then extrapolated to be representative of the wider world.

Or maybe I'll draw your attention to your challenge to my post detailing the problems and expense ordinary musicians have when touring in the EU, due to Brexit, which you then rubbished based on your own anecdotal experience, which you then had to retract after a respected music source backed up my claims?

[Andy_Faber]

Proven by yourself admitting that it was purely anecdotal, based on FB or other social media or a specific incident which you or somebody you had spoken to had witnessed and had then extrapolated to be representative of the wider world.

Or maybe I'll draw your attention to your challenge to my post detailing the problems and expense ordinary musicians have when touring in the EU, due to Brexit, which you then rubbished based on your own anecdotal experience, which you then had to retract after a respected music source backed up my claims?

What ARE you prattling on about Swale, please only return when you're relevant

[Andy_Faber]

Probably nothing. Can't see them taking a bribe just to risk business reputation.

My experience with estate agents suggests it?s a competency error

[SithHappens]

My experience with estate agents suggests it?s a competency error

Agree. Our letting agents are useless

[swaledale]

What ARE you prattling on about Swale, please only return when you're relevant

Ah the convenient memory loss and deflection that occurs whenever you have been proven wrong. I guess the deluded need to keep their delusions.

Anyway I shall enjoy your next revelation that 96% or whatever number you happen to think of agree with you on fakebook! Its always amusing.

[Andy_Faber]

Ah the convenient memory loss and deflection that occurs whenever you have been proven wrong. I guess the deluded need to keep their delusions.

Anyway I shall enjoy your next revelation that 96% or whatever number you happen to think of agree with you on fakebook! Its always amusing.

Are you the guy with the maegaphone in the latest viral video?

[SithHappens]

Louise Haigh on HIGNFY , dreadful, why do politicians go on there?

[Andy_Faber]

Louise Haigh on HIGNFY , dreadful, why do politicians go on there?

Politicians of all hues make awful comedians but Zelensky has proved its possible the other way