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    Alright. Deep breath. Because this is one of those moments where you either unload the truth or you let it rot inside you until it turns into ulcers.
    So I’ve got a genuine question for the MAGA crowd, and don’t worry, I’ll go slow so everyone can keep up.
    How many of you actually voted to invade Greenland?
    Show of hands. Anyone? No? Weird.
    How many of you voted to roll into Venezuela, kidnap their president, start flogging their oil, and quietly park the cash in a private bank account in Qatar like it’s some dodgy offshore gambling account? Anyone tick that box? No?
    How about an international trade war that jacks up prices on everything you buy, food, TVs, cars, rent, the whole bloody lot. That one ring a bell? Is that what you thought you were signing up for?
    Because here’s the thing. None of this was on the brochure. This wasn’t the promise. This wasn’t the sales pitch. You were sold cheap groceries, cheap fuel, strong borders, tough guy leadership and winning so much you’d get sick of it. Instead you got tariffs that function like a dumb tax on your own face, global instability, allies looking at America like it’s the bloke at the pub who’s had too many and won’t stop starting fights.
    So what exactly do you say for yourselves now?
    And no, I’m not done. Because this isn’t just on the loud idiots with the red hats. This one’s also on the lazy, disengaged geniuses who couldn’t be bothered getting off their arse to vote when it actually mattered. The ones who treated democracy like a Netflix show they might catch up on later. Congratulations. You helped roll the dice and now everyone’s paying for it.
    And Democrats, don’t sit there polishing halos. You don’t get a free pass either. You had four years after January 6 to put a lid on this bloke. Four years. Instead you hemmed, hawed, slow-walked, hand-wrung, and let him wander back onto the field like a deranged bull that everyone pretended wasn’t still dangerous. That’s not prudence. That’s cowardice wrapped in procedure.
    Now here we are.
    Masked ICE agents roaming the streets like it’s a bad dystopian nightmare. The military being pointed inward. Allies openly questioning whether the United States can be trusted to not lose its **** every four years. The world watching America like, what the ****ing hell happened to you?
    So here’s the part nobody seems to want to answer.
    When this is finally over, whether it’s cholesterol, age, or the slow fade into irrelevance at a retirement home with cable news blaring in the background, what are you going to do to clean this Trump **** stain up?
    How do you rebuild trust with allies who got stabbed in the back?
    How do you close the loopholes that let this happen in the first place?
    How do you stop the next billionaire malignant narcissist from hijacking the system again?
    Because the reputation of the United States is in pieces. Not cracked. Not dented. Smashed. And the world isn’t angry anymore. It’s appalled. It’s exhausted. It’s done pretending this is normal.
    So yeah. Laugh if you want. Deflect if you want. Blame everyone else if it makes you feel better.
    But at some point, the grown-ups have to show up and ask the only question that actually matters now.
    What the **** are you going to do to make sure this never happens again?

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    • Originally posted by Ram Pant View Post
      Latest offering from the Aussie..


      Alright. Deep breath. Because this is one of those moments where you either unload the truth or you let it rot inside you until it turns into ulcers.
      So I’ve got a genuine question for the MAGA crowd, and don’t worry, I’ll go slow so everyone can keep up.
      How many of you actually voted to invade Greenland?
      Show of hands. Anyone? No? Weird.
      How many of you voted to roll into Venezuela, kidnap their president, start flogging their oil, and quietly park the cash in a private bank account in Qatar like it’s some dodgy offshore gambling account? Anyone tick that box? No?
      How about an international trade war that jacks up prices on everything you buy, food, TVs, cars, rent, the whole bloody lot. That one ring a bell? Is that what you thought you were signing up for?
      Because here’s the thing. None of this was on the brochure. This wasn’t the promise. This wasn’t the sales pitch. You were sold cheap groceries, cheap fuel, strong borders, tough guy leadership and winning so much you’d get sick of it. Instead you got tariffs that function like a dumb tax on your own face, global instability, allies looking at America like it’s the bloke at the pub who’s had too many and won’t stop starting fights.
      So what exactly do you say for yourselves now?
      And no, I’m not done. Because this isn’t just on the loud idiots with the red hats. This one’s also on the lazy, disengaged geniuses who couldn’t be bothered getting off their arse to vote when it actually mattered. The ones who treated democracy like a Netflix show they might catch up on later. Congratulations. You helped roll the dice and now everyone’s paying for it.
      And Democrats, don’t sit there polishing halos. You don’t get a free pass either. You had four years after January 6 to put a lid on this bloke. Four years. Instead you hemmed, hawed, slow-walked, hand-wrung, and let him wander back onto the field like a deranged bull that everyone pretended wasn’t still dangerous. That’s not prudence. That’s cowardice wrapped in procedure.
      Now here we are.
      Masked ICE agents roaming the streets like it’s a bad dystopian nightmare. The military being pointed inward. Allies openly questioning whether the United States can be trusted to not lose its **** every four years. The world watching America like, what the ****ing hell happened to you?
      So here’s the part nobody seems to want to answer.
      When this is finally over, whether it’s cholesterol, age, or the slow fade into irrelevance at a retirement home with cable news blaring in the background, what are you going to do to clean this Trump **** stain up?
      How do you rebuild trust with allies who got stabbed in the back?
      How do you close the loopholes that let this happen in the first place?
      How do you stop the next billionaire malignant narcissist from hijacking the system again?
      Because the reputation of the United States is in pieces. Not cracked. Not dented. Smashed. And the world isn’t angry anymore. It’s appalled. It’s exhausted. It’s done pretending this is normal.
      So yeah. Laugh if you want. Deflect if you want. Blame everyone else if it makes you feel better.
      But at some point, the grown-ups have to show up and ask the only question that actually matters now.
      What the **** are you going to do to make sure this never happens again?
      I saw a poll saying 75% of Americans were against the invasion of Greenland. That still leaves 25% who aren't against it, incredible really, id be horrified to think a quarter of brits were open to invading an innocent supposed ally.

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      • Originally posted by SithHappens View Post
        I saw a poll saying 75% of Americans were against the invasion of Greenland. That still leaves 25% who aren't against it, incredible really, id be horrified to think a quarter of brits were open to invading an innocent supposed ally.
        You’re possibly being too nice again, Sith. We probably don’t have the firepower to invade another country, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if 20-25% of Brits supported sinking the boats and setting hotels full of asylum seekers on fire, which is an equally horrible thing to have to acknowledge.

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        • Originally posted by ramAnag View Post
          Apologies. Site was playing up. I thought you were suggesting that AG was an example of ?core Labour voter bigotry?. If I misunderstood I apologise.

          As I remember, the late great Les Dawson - who came from much the same background - seemed to manage without recourse to racist rubbish.
          Accepted

          dawson: Except when he was playing the piano he wouldnt use the black keys hence his rather chaotic rendition of tunes. Or so Ive been told.

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          • Originally posted by ramAnag View Post
            You’re possibly being too nice again, Sith. We probably don’t have the firepower to invade another country, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if 20-25% of Brits supported sinking the boats and setting hotels full of asylum seekers on fire, which is an equally horrible thing to have to acknowledge.
            Based on this little microcosm, Id say 2-3 favoured sinking boats out of 10, so those numbers seem about right. Hotel burning is maybe less well supported here - accomodation is always in short supply

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            • Originally posted by Andy_Faber View Post
              I note that your ?Good Germans? prediction came true, truer than even your most fervent hope. Your only error was the flag they are waving-red white black and green. How foolish must you feel
              My advice to you is think before you post, I've made you look a fool so many times, a wiser person would ahve learnt their lesson, but hey I guess your so blinded by your narrow perspective you won't. Still at least you amuse me.

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              • Originally posted by swaledale View Post
                My advice to you is think before you post, I've made you look a fool so many times, a wiser person would ahve learnt their lesson, but hey I guess your so blinded by your narrow perspective you won't. Still at least you amuse me.
                Being nasty to posters rather than addressing actual issues you may feel uncomfortable with is in your DNA Swale but thereÂ’s always chance for redemption, focus on the issues at hand eh?

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                • Originally posted by Andy_Faber View Post
                  Being nasty to posters rather than addressing actual issues you may feel uncomfortable with is in your DNA Swale but there?‚?’s always chance for redemption, focus on the issues at hand eh?
                  I’m off to Manchester shortly so I won’t be contributing further you’ll be relieved to know AF.

                  Your level of hypocrisy is astonishing though.
                  Swale isn’t ‘nasty to posters’, he has his moments (we all do), but it wasn’t him who referred to posters who, disagreed with him as ‘four old farts’, it isn’t him who repeatedly and patronisingly tells others how to behave and who to agree with - including the totally inoffensive Sith who does nothing more than very reasonably and politely saying it as he sees it - and it isn’t Swale who repeatedly indulges in name calling.

                  I won’t go further because I don’t want to piss others off by indulging in the type of personal attacks MA referred to yesterday, but you really do need to have a word with yourself before attacking others - Swale, Sith and I in the last two days, the ‘four old farts’ earlier in the week. You may also like to remember that you are the alleged moderator of this, in your own words, increasingly ‘moribund’ forum. Time to act like it instead of indulging in your all too regular impressions of TTR. We all know what happened to the forum he had the chance to moderate.
                  Last edited by ramAnag; 21-01-2026, 08:59 AM.

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                  • We're all old farts in here rA, all have polarised views, all never budge an inch from those entrenched views. The forum is moribund. So what's the issue? You seem to have taken personal ownership of "old fartedness" by assuming it was directed at you but I've seen no evidence that it was. Get over it,. Sticks and stones etc....m

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                    • Surely Farage has to resign now?

                      The parliamentary commissioner for standards said Farage had apologised after missing the deadline for registering interests.


                      He was at the front of the queue calling for Angela Rayner to resign for her administrative error

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                      • Originally posted by SithHappens View Post
                        Surely Farage has to resign now?

                        The parliamentary commissioner for standards said Farage had apologised after missing the deadline for registering interests.


                        He was at the front of the queue calling for Angela Rayner to resign for her administrative error
                        My 10p says he won't....

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                        • Originally posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
                          My 10p says he won't....
                          Rayner only resigned from Cabinet and the deputy leadership. She remained an MP. Farridge will remain an MP who claims to receive 1000 emails a day. How many get even read, never mind replied to...

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                          • especially as his excuse for the oversight in declaring income was that he was/is computer illiterate!!

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                            • Originally posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
                              especially as his excuse for the oversight in declaring income was that he was/is computer illiterate!!
                              ... another Mr Pantsonfire?

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                              • Amazing how it barely features in the media, even on the BBC site its hard to find.

                                Rayner was headline news for days until she resigned.

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