Matchday thread: Derby v Charlton

[Andy_Faber]

Anyone with a view ?

[SithHappens]

They have started quite well but think we need to start putting some wins on the board.

Going to go for a 2 nil win to the Rams. Pat to get his 1st goal.

[ramAnag]

They have started quite well but think we need to start putting some wins on the board.

Going to go for a 2 nil win to the Rams. Pat to get his 1st goal.

You don’t say . We certainly do…and I think we will, courtesy of a horribly nail biting 2-1.

[MadAmster]

Every chance in this one as I'm not over

They have had 2 League defeats this season, QPR, currently 9th and Lestah, 5th. I don't see them losing this one either as, thus far, we haven't really shown the creativity needed to beat the better sides in the League. 2-1 them.

[Ramshank72]

I don't know, hopefully the midweek travel puts Charlton off. I'll go another 1-1, but really hoping that we start seeing signs of a team performance, and a midfield more involved. Agree with MA about our lack of creativity, which is a shame, because I think our strikers are as good as any in this league. Not expecting the finished article yet, we're a few games from clicking, but some signs would be promising.

[MadAmster]

I don't know, hopefully the midweek travel puts Charlton off. I'll go another 1-1, but really hoping that we start seeing signs of a team performance, and a midfield more involved. Agree with MA about our lack of creativity, which is a shame, because I think our strikers are as good as any in this league. Not expecting the finished article yet, we're a few games from clicking, but some signs would be promising.

Still Beck, Langas, Brewster to get fit. All 3 would, IMO, be in the starting XI with CBT to get fit and have a few cameos before being considered for a start. CBT to become a super sub maybe?

My fully fit XI:
JWZ
Johnston, Langas, Clarke, Beck
Travis Ozoh
Brewster Morris Diaz
Agyemang

[ramAnag]

Still Beck, Langas, Brewster to get fit. All 3 would, IMO, be in the starting XI with CBT to get fit and have a few cameos before being considered for a start. CBT to become a super sub maybe?

My fully fit XI:
JWZ
Johnston, Langas, Clarke, Beck
Travis Ozoh
Brewster Morris Diaz
Agyemang

Totally agree about Langas, Beck and Brewster.
Coming round to your way of thinking about us needing Ozoh’s creativity.

Is there such a thing as a ‘fully fit’ CBT? Wouldn’t want to have to depend on it.
Assume Diaz will be unavailable for Saturday against Southampton.

[MadAmster]

Totally agree about Langas, Beck and Brewster.
Coming round to your way of thinking about us needing Ozoh’s creativity.

Is there such a thing as a ‘fully fit’ CBT? Wouldn’t want to have to depend on it.
Assume Diaz will be unavailable for Saturday against Southampton.

Indeed.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Still Beck, Langas, Brewster to get fit. All 3 would, IMO, be in the starting XI with CBT to get fit and have a few cameos before being considered for a start. CBT to become a super sub maybe?

My fully fit XI:
JWZ
Johnston, Langas, Clarke, Beck
Travis Ozoh
Brewster Morris Diaz
Agyemang

Adams no doubt soon to be suspended...

We turn up and turn it on. 4-1, 2 for Agyemong

[swaledale]

They are in good form, so 1-1 for me.

[SithHappens]

I think it will be 3 nil now because my dad and me decided not to go because of our adventures in A and E Sunday night, he's 87 nearly and knackered by it and I'm still not 100% from my Greek adventures.

Watching on Sky of course..COYR.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Can't watch any more of that garbage. Hope my absence leads to a comeback but I hold little hope

[MadAmster]

1st minute, Morris has his shirt pulled up around his head to stop him playing. No spot kick given. Probably because Morris had a handful of the defender’s shirt too

Clark raises his foot in their box, makes no contact but gets penalised. Later in the half, a similar height, Elder gets kicked in the head but no free kick.

Can’t blame the ref for everything though. In previous games I’ve complained nobody is on their “man”, not tracking back, not putting opposition players under pressure. Same again, We have the ball and they are all over us like a rash, rushed into passes and we give it away. All too often the man in possession has no outlet due to a) insufficient movement and b) their being right on top of us.
Charlton playing one and 2 touch. We are slow on the ball giving them all the time they need to be ready to tackle or intercept, get in first.

1st half we’ve had some moments but the ball into the box has been poor on the few occasions it’s not been blocked it’s failed to get past the front man.

Their goal? Unmarked players combine to see the ball reach Bree, who has jogged into the box with no Rams player within 10 yards, lets the ball bounce once and hits a cracking volley into the net. JWZ had no chance.

Speaking JWZ, on 2 occasions poor control, which is unusual for him, saw him in danger of conceding. Fortunately he got away with it
1st 45 not good enough.

Half time, Adams (not having his best game on the ball) replaced by Ozoh.

2nd half much better. More movement, tighter on the opposition, better passing (still needs improvement) and we’re the only side that looked like scoring. When the goal came it was from 2nd phase play from an overhit corner, Travis chased it down, put in a dream of a cross and Clarke put it away.

Why are we playing so much better in the 2nd halves of games? Someone put some stats on FB. They’d broken down the games into separate results for 1st and 2nd halves. We’re averaging 0.5 points per 1st half of games. 1.75 in 2nd halves. Solve the 1st half performances and we’ll be fine.

[SithHappens]

Definitely improved as the game went on, had we started like that we would have won

[MadAmster]

Definitely improved as the game went on, had we started like that we would have won

I fact checked the figures I'd seen on 1st and 2nd half "results". They're correct based on a 3 points for a win in a half and 1 for a draw.

1st halves, we've drawn 4 and lost 4. 4 points at 0.5 a half.
2nd halves, we've won 4, drawn 2 and lost 2. 14 points at 1.75 a half.