Last time this week

[Returnofrros]

John nelms has ripped the heart, soul and spirit from our club by incompetent management and complete arrogance.

Assisted by the ostriches at D4L and DSA.

Well done Nelmsy.👍

[jdfc]

John nelms has ripped the heart, soul and spirit from our club by incompetent management and complete arrogance.

Assisted by the ostriches at D4L and DSA.

Well done Nelmsy.👍

Agree with you but fail to see how any of this lies at the door of the DSA, they are an organisation that is there to help supporters clubs that travel to away matches, and help in the community, I?m unaware of anything that they are to do with Nelms

[Returnofrros]

Agree with you but fail to see how any of this lies at the door of the DSA, they are an organisation that is there to help supporters clubs that travel to away matches, and help in the community, I?m unaware of anything that they are to do with Nelms

They give him legitimacy.

They should have told him to **** off when he played them over D4L ( divide and conquer) they shouldn't have given them that ridiculous photo op a few months back, they shouldn't have said the stadium planning was imminent about a year ago probably because he told them it was.

We have got the gutless club our gutless fans groups deserve, they probably don't even realise the club is now a complete irrelevance in Scottish football.

He's a charlatan and still no one says boo, his boss, the fans groups or the fans.

I honestly believe he's done what two admins couldn't and broke the back of the football club.

Won 8&6 today, match ended 2-2 though.....soaked and if I'd lost 8&6 I still wuda had more fun than sitting at Dens.

Thank **** I don't have the option of going again until Xmas games.

[scottg]

Time for both D4L and DSA to call for change, fair play and gratitude to Tim Keyes for his continued commitment but even his best interests would be better served by a change at the top within the Football Club. If the performance of the current MD isn’t called into question at the next D4L AGM I will be very surprised. If it is they need to commit to a specific course of action - D4L have wasted years in terms of marking time and allowing the core support to shrink in terms of size and belief. If DSA’s remit is as jdfc says away travel and community then they should not allow JN to say he regularly consults the majority of the support via them. They are being used in order to ensure he is not held accountable, I’d challenge anyone disputing criticism of his performance to identify his successes during his tenure.
Now is the time, post Christmas it’s going to be all about the fight for Premiership survival, Season Ticket renewal and potentially backing a new manager.

[Deeranged]

Time for both D4L and DSA to call for change, fair play and gratitude to Tim Keyes for his continued commitment but even his best interests would be better served by a change at the top within the Football Club. If the performance of the current MD isn?’t called into question at the next D4L AGM I will be very surprised. If it is they need to commit to a specific course of action - D4L have wasted years in terms of marking time and allowing the core support to shrink in terms of size and belief. If DSA?’s remit is as jdfc says away travel and community then they should not allow JN to say he regularly consults the majority of the support via them. They are being used in order to ensure he is not held accountable, I?’d challenge anyone disputing criticism of his performance to identify his successes during his tenure.
Now is the time, post Christmas it?’s going to be all about the fight for Premiership survival, Season Ticket renewal and potentially backing a new manager.

The key will be to reunite DSA and Dee4Life under a single Dee4Life banner. That won't be easy because the one thing Nelms keeps stating is that DSA represents the majority of the support, we all know that to be a lie but it seems to be something the DSA leadership covet.

Unfortunately I genuinely believe that the DSA honchos are too ingrained with Nelms to do anything without his say so, they're weak and too keen on the titbits they're receiving from him.

DSA can do what JDFC says they do without clinging so tightly to Nelms' coat tails.

[scottg]

No need to open the can of worms that is D4L/DSA amalgamation, potentially time consuming and complex, a simple vote of no confidence in the MD at the D4L AGM with a mandate to seek further opinion amongst the greater D4L membership, DSA member clubs and ultimately the support s a whole is what is required.
Just my own view, any better ideas ?

[parcbara]

No need to open the can of worms that is D4L/DSA amalgamation, potentially time consuming and complex, a simple vote of no confidence in the MD at the D4L AGM with a mandate to seek further opinion amongst the greater D4L membership, DSA member clubs and ultimately the support s a whole is what is required.
Just my own view, any better ideas ?

That would be a start.

[BCram]

No need to open the can of worms that is D4L/DSA amalgamation, potentially time consuming and complex, a simple vote of no confidence in the MD at the D4L AGM with a mandate to seek further opinion amongst the greater D4L membership, DSA member clubs and ultimately the support s a whole is what is required.
Just my own view, any better ideas ?

Agree. Dee4life should take action based on their soon to be held AGM. Not necessary to involve DSA.
Word of caution about the actual numbers of posters on this forum and TDB. I haven't counted them but I think 20 on this Forum and even 10 times that number on TDB is still less than 250 which represents less than 6% of our support.

What is the best outcome for DFC? I keep asking myself that? I think putting forward carrots that would give cash for the playing budget, might be worthwhile. Perhaps persuading 1893 Foundation supporters to switch their funding into a different account that could be used for players, and managed by people who would be independent of any influence by FPS.

I think making the point that without a football club there is no need for a new stadium, might make people pay attention.

Be ironic if a hint that United might be interested in ground sharing at Campy, would swing the planning issues in favour.

[scottg]

Lads,
Enjoyed the chat, much more than I enjoyed the 90 minutes today.
Stayed away for two seasons, back but only on a part time basis.
When the Boy departs I’ll renew, sorry but can’t commit whilst he continues to show the contempt he does for the ordinary punter.
When there’s nobody and nothing to believe in there’s no point - we had a starting start on Hearts, Motherwell, St Mirren and Falkirk and are now miles behind them on so many fronts.
I had my day when nothing else mattered more and the love i had for DFC was unconditional.
It’s an absolute mess and the boy in charge appears to be so severally detached from reality it’s unbelievable.
Longing for the day that the true love I had for DFC returns
Won’t be posting again for the foreseeable, over and out..
Scott G

[Returnofrros]

D4L AGM will decide if we limp along as a dying club or start the fightback.

I'll be watching with interest.

[islaydarkblue]

Agree with you but fail to see how any of this lies at the door of the DSA, they are an organisation that is there to help supporters clubs that travel to away matches, and help in the community, I?m unaware of anything that they are to do with Nelms

The DSA committee members do as they are told by Nelms otherwise they will lose their privileges in Dundee Football Club and at Gardyne.
The DSA committee members were due to have a meeting with the Dee4life board of directors until the Football Club (Nelms) intervened and told the DSA that the Football Club were not happy about the DSA having a meeting with Dee4life because of an article in a recent Dee4life newsletter.
They only way that Nelms could have known about this meeting was if someone on the DSA committee had blabbed to Nelms about it because Dee4life are banned from Gardyne.

[islaydarkblue]

D4L AGM will decide if we limp along as a dying club or start the fightback.

I'll be watching with interest.

The Dee4life AGM is taking place on Saturday 29th November 2025 at 11.30am and it is being held in the Dundee Social Club.

[islaydarkblue]

Last Thursday I heard that there was no guest speaker at the DSA Player of the Year dinner in May 2025 because John Nelms objected to the proposed guest speaker because the guest speaker had previously stated a derogatory comment.
Nelms threatened to ban the players from attending the 2025 Player of the Year dinner if this guest speaker was at the dinner.
Needless to say the ?gutless? DSA committee members did as Nelms requested resulting in no guest speaker being present at the dinner.
In my opinion if the DSA committee members had any guts they should have told Nelms to take a hike and see whether Nelms had the ?bottle? to ban the players from attending or not.
Meanwhile everyone attending the dinner should have received a small refund on their ticket price as the guest speaker would he been paid ?500 plus expenses for their speech in addition to a free meal for what it is worth.

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[BP33]

Last Thursday I heard that there was no guest speaker at the DSA Player of the Year dinner in May 2025 because John Nelms objected to the proposed guest speaker because the guest speaker had previously stated a derogatory comment.
Nelms threatened to ban the players from attending the 2025 Player of the Year dinner if this guest speaker was at the dinner.
Needless to say the ?gutless? DSA committee members did as Nelms requested resulting in no guest speaker being present at the dinner.
In my opinion if the DSA committee members had any guts they should have told Nelms to take a hike and see whether Nelms had the ?bottle? to ban the players from attending or not.
Meanwhile everyone attending the dinner should have received a small refund on their ticket price as the guest speaker would he been paid ?500 plus expenses for their speech in addition to a free meal for what it is worth.

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You heard, WTF who from? Who was the absent guest speaker?

As if Nelms would ban the players from attending. You re living in cloud cuckoo land.

Do you think anyone would be bothered by ?4/5 each?

[islaydarkblue]

You heard, WTF who from? Who was the absent guest speaker?

As if Nelms would ban the players from attending. You re living in cloud cuckoo land.

Do you think anyone would be bothered by ?4/5 each?

The Treasurer of the Forfar Dark Blues told me Nelms was not happy about the name of the proposed guest speaker for the DSA Player of the Year dinner in May 2025 and she had heard that Nelms had threatened to ban the players from attending the dinner.
I do not understand why John Nelms was complaining as he was not present at the dinner despite being listed in the Order of Presentation which stated that John Nelms was giving a speech from 9.40pm to 9.50pm.
The 2025 Player of the year dinner was dragged out to allow for no guest speaker and it was a pale shadow of previous DSA Player of the Year dinners.
The secretary of the DSA should be explaining who was the proposed guest speaker for the DSA Player of the Year dinner in May 2025 and why there was no guest speaker at the dinner.