Really unlucky

[Returnofrros]

Wee bit more guile in 2nd half I think we may have won that

Scottish officials ......pretty much nothing left to say......livvy pen, Celtic shuda had a man off yesterday and where hearts took free kick from.

Brutal officiating

[Returnofrros]

Oh and livvy boy shuda been off as well

[davydook]

FIFA badge on his jersey, did he buy that on ebay? absolutely shocking refereeing.

[noahrab]

Wee bit more guile in 2nd half I think we may have won that

Scottish officials ......pretty much nothing left to say......livvy pen, Celtic shuda had a man off yesterday and where hearts took free kick from.

Brutal officiating

Dhanda would?ve made difference.

[Returnofrros]

FIFA badge on his jersey, did he buy that on ebay? absolutely shocking refereeing.

You could give these arseholes all the tools in the world they wud still **** it up.

Arrogant, amaturish and constantly apologetic dosent cut it anymore.

[Returnofrros]

Dhanda would?ve made difference.

He was the missing guile

[BCram]

You could give these arseholes all the tools in the world they wud still **** it up.

Arrogant, amaturish and constantly apologetic dosent cut it anymore.

Is there any way that mistakes can be catalogued and referred to the referee in a systematic way that might help him to improve.
It isn't any good shouting at them imo. We should try to help them, that help could involve allowing them to retrain at a lower level, maybe even help them to see that being a ref is beyond their level of competence.

[Returnofrros]

Is there any way that mistakes can be catalogued and referred to the referee in a systematic way that might help him to improve.
It isn't any good shouting at them imo. We should try to help them, that help could involve allowing them to retrain at a lower level, maybe even help them to see that being a ref is beyond their level of competence.

I honestly believe they think they are doing well.

Even when VAR gets involved it can be chaotic shouting over the top of one another.

Think Collum had tried to raise the standard but so many fundamental errors which on a guid few occasions are compounded by VAR.

The bigger teams still getting the majority of the decisions going there way.

How the ref ( and hearts fan )and VAR cannot spot the free kick has been taken 12 to 15 yards further forward than it should have is 1. Incompetence, 2. Potential cheating 3. Bottle ( in Vars case)

Did you see the Celtic player halving the dab bcram.....out of control, dangerous, overly aggressive and borderline 2 footed.....yellow....Var agreed. 🤣

Livi player booked early then goes on to commit 3 fouls worse than one booked for ....allowed to be substituted.

Rangers player throwing an elbow at Celtic guy square In the pus last week.

Now utd probably still wuda lost at park head ....they were 2 down......but other 3 games it's more than likely effected the result.

6 games they have to officiate every week and it's error after ****ing error.

[noahrab]

I honestly believe they think they are doing well.

Even when VAR gets involved it can be chaotic shouting over the top of one another.

Think Collum had tried to raise the standard but so many fundamental errors which on a guid few occasions are compounded by VAR.

The bigger teams still getting the majority of the decisions going there way.

How the ref ( and hearts fan )and VAR cannot spot the free kick has been taken 12 to 15 yards further forward than it should have is 1. Incompetence, 2. Potential cheating 3. Bottle ( in Vars case)

Did you see the Celtic player halving the dab bcram.....out of control, dangerous, overly aggressive and borderline 2 footed.....yellow....Var agreed. 🤣

Livi player booked early then goes on to commit 3 fouls worse than one booked for ....allowed to be substituted.

Rangers player throwing an elbow at Celtic guy square In the pus last week.

Now utd probably still wuda lost at park head ....they were 2 down......but other 3 games it's more than likely effected the result.

6 games they have to officiate every week and it's error after ****ing error.

Ref was a Hibs fan.

[BCram]

I honestly believe they think they are doing well.

Even when VAR gets involved it can be chaotic shouting over the top of one another.

Think Collum had tried to raise the standard but so many fundamental errors which on a guid few occasions are compounded by VAR.

The bigger teams still getting the majority of the decisions going there way.

How the ref ( and hearts fan )and VAR cannot spot the free kick has been taken 12 to 15 yards further forward than it should have is 1. Incompetence, 2. Potential cheating 3. Bottle ( in Vars case)

Did you see the Celtic player halving the dab bcram.....out of control, dangerous, overly aggressive and borderline 2 footed.....yellow....Var agreed. 🤣

Livi player booked early then goes on to commit 3 fouls worse than one booked for ....allowed to be substituted.

Rangers player throwing an elbow at Celtic guy square In the pus last week.

Now utd probably still wuda lost at park head ....they were 2 down......but other 3 games it's more than likely effected the result.

6 games they have to officiate every week and it's error after ****ing error.

Surely the SFA could afford to run a systematic review of every hotly contested decision
? Would VAR thinking be available even though they did not intervene?

I think there is a mentality that seeks to protect the system. Government by consent is being abused because mistakes are being glossed over, in an effort to prevent the system falling so far into disrepute.

[Returnofrros]

Surely the SFA could afford to run a systematic review of every hotly contested decision
? Would VAR thinking be available even though they did not intervene?

I think there is a mentality that seeks to protect the system. Government by consent is being abused because mistakes are being glossed over, in an effort to prevent the system falling so far into disrepute.

You ever listened to the monthly review collum and TV guy.

Collum is very honest calling out the errors but they continue to happen.

The communication between var and the ref is frantic at best chaotic a lot of the time.

And it strikes me Var officials make there decision early then look for justification of decision instead of ( like in rugby ) going over incident to get to correct decision.

Rugby errors are so few, football errors far to many.

[noahrab]

You ever listened to the monthly review collum and TV guy.

Collum is very honest calling out the errors but they continue to happen.

The communication between var and the ref is frantic at best chaotic a lot of the time.

And it strikes me Var officials make there decision early then look for justification of decision instead of ( like in rugby ) going over incident to get to correct decision.

Rugby errors are so few, football errors far too many.

In rugby refs are respected and you seldom have players out to cheat the opponents.

Yogane should?ve passed it to the furthest away defender, not the nearest.

Cant stop game for everything as it won?t get finished.

We were naive and have to suck it up.

[BCram]

In rugby refs are respected and you seldom have players out to cheat the opponents.

Yogane should?ve passed it to the furthest away defender, not the nearest.

Cant stop game for everything as it won?t get finished.

We were naive and have to suck it up.

The first part of your last sentence seems to me to be our problem. Lower number of fouls committed and often more yellows given. Not trying to slow down the opposition at free kicks, failure to claim for fouls in a sufficiently vocal and team based way. I am sure there are coaching sessions that could be developed to help our team to at least give some balance to the decision making by referees.

[davydook]

In rugby refs are respected and you seldom have players out to cheat the opponents.

Yogane should?ve passed it to the furthest away defender, not the nearest.

Cant stop game for everything as it won?t get finished.

We were naive and have to suck it up.

Agree re Yogane should not have given them the ball back and the naivity at times. Dundee always just seem to accept refereeing mistakes, the whole team should have been surrounding the referee (Fergie's Man Utd's style} to let him and VAR know that they got it massively wrong, then the ref starts giving decisions to balance it out. That goal would never have stood in a million years if it was against either of the arsecheeks, VAR would have ruled it out.

[BCram]

Agree re Yogane should not have given them the ball back and the naivity at times. Dundee always just seem to accept refereeing mistakes, the whole team should have been surrounding the referee (Fergie's Man Utd's style} to let him and VAR know that they got it massively wrong, then the ref starts giving decisions to balance it out. That goal would never have stood in a million years if it was against either of the arsecheeks, VAR would have ruled it out.

I'd be very disappointed if single Dundee player passes the ball to an opponent in the wake of a foul. Learn the lesson!