Var now proving that it is fair

[BCram]

OF both get game changing decisions, just like every other club has been moaning about for ages. It isn't biased just poorly run!

[Deeranged]

Rangers fuming because they had what could easily been a penalty turned down whilst conveniently forgetting all the ones they've had given that weren't penalties. I actually thought it was a penalty, a lot of similarities with the one we were given against Aberdeen on Saturday, probably also a yellow, so can see why they're upset by it. Others will see it differently of course and that's only my opinion.

No idea what Trusty was doing, maybe not a punch or slap to the face but still a high force strike on an opposition player, he had to go.

Worst of the weekend was Richard King of St. Mirren being sent off for absolutely nothing against Motherwell. Scary that VAR didn't either ask the referee to review that or just tell him he'd made a right rip roaring James Blunt of it for the second time in the game. Slattery's now made himself very visible to our incompetent referees so maybe some good will come of it? I doubt it though.

[Returnofrros]

Hate VAR, Hate Rantic.

Do away with both

[BCram]

Was wondering if OF complaints might encourage a review of exactly how VAR operates in Scotland.

[Returnofrros]

Was wondering if OF complaints might encourage a review of exactly how VAR operates in Scotland.

It's a farce in Scotland.

6 mins or so at the sheep pen on Saturday.

I know Pravda folk on the stick don't mind but when you ACTUALLY GO TO THE GAME it's ridiculous waiting on decisions and most of the time you have no idea what they are looking at.

[BCram]

At least with rugby the system is broadcast. Think that would help. Although the ethos in football seems to be to cheat, and that is acceptable because everyone tries it on.

[Returnofrros]

At least with rugby the system is broadcast. Think that would help. Although the ethos in football seems to be to cheat, and that is acceptable because everyone tries it on.

You have something there.

Even rules that are brought in to protect players are abused.

Players going down with head knocks at corners free kicks to get the game stopped when their team are holding on and break up the game is farcical.

These rules were brought in for player safety and who abuse it.....shock the players.

Anything that slows the game down now just becomes frustrating and VAR falls into that category.

Even if ref dosent go to the " monitor " there's at least half a dozen times a game when VAR delays start of game whilst they look for a reason to make or change a decision.....whilst nobody knows why the keeper isn't taking the goal kick.....what happened to 30 secs and only clear and obvious......disappeared like a fart in the wind.........give officials a reason to officiate they can't help themselves, give legislators a reason to legislate.....can't help themselves.

Collum has tried to make it work but it's a Frankenstein of a system and when you see the var official trying to bring up different angles, struggling with buttons and knobs it reminds me of Homer Simpson running the nuclear plant.

I think this season will be decided in the 114th minute by VAR if it goes to the last day......not what sport or entertainment should be about.

[Returnofrros]

VAR isn't fair to paying customer at the game.

[BCram]

You have something there.

Even rules that are brought in to protect players are abused.

Players going down with head knocks at corners free kicks to get the game stopped when their team are holding on and break up the game is farcical.

These rules were brought in for player safety and who abuse it.....shock the players.

Anything that slows the game down now just becomes frustrating and VAR falls into that category.

Even if ref dosent go to the " monitor " there's at least half a dozen times a game when VAR delays start of game whilst they look for a reason to make or change a decision.....whilst nobody knows why the keeper isn't taking the goal kick.....what happened to 30 secs and only clear and obvious......disappeared like a fart in the wind.........give officials a reason to officiate they can't help themselves, give legislators a reason to legislate.....can't help themselves.

Collum has tried to make it work but it's a Frankenstein of a system and when you see the var official trying to bring up different angles, struggling with buttons and knobs it reminds me of Homer Simpson running the nuclear plant.

I think this season will be decided in the 114th minute by VAR if it goes to the last day......not what sport or entertainment should be about.

Why don't they use the same system as most professional team sports and use a clock controlled by the ref which stops when he blows his whistle and is started the moment the ball is in play again. Someone could do the restart so that there was no chance of the ref forgetting to restart the clock.
Don't know enough about the laws of football, but surely there are comparable time keeping systems used in other sports that could be adopted? Would formalise the final whistle, so that either it was when the full time was reached, or as in rugby you played until there was a break in play, that was not caused by the side without the ball.

[Returnofrros]

Why don't they use the same system as most professional team sports and use a clock controlled by the ref which stops when he blows his whistle and is started the moment the ball is in play again. Someone could do the restart so that there was no chance of the ref forgetting to restart the clock.
Don't know enough about the laws of football, but surely there are comparable time keeping systems used in other sports that could be adopted? Would formalise the final whistle, so that either it was when the full time was reached, or as in rugby you played until there was a break in play, that was not caused by the side without the ball.

I would be more than happy with that but TV companies want games finishing at roughly the same time.

I'd suggest games cud be up to 20 mins apart on a Saturday.

And just for a rule bend if hearts Celtic rangers came down to GD I suspect there will be long delays at start of 2nd half as each team tries to get their game to finish last.

P.S why is the result from Somerset first in.....seems to be some sorta time zone Doon their different from the rest of the country.

[BCram]

I would be more than happy with that but TV companies want games finishing at roughly the same time.

I'd suggest games cud be up to 20 mins apart on a Saturday.

And just for a rule bend if hearts Celtic rangers came down to GD I suspect there will be long delays at start of 2nd half as each team tries to get their game to finish last.

P.S why is the result from Somerset first in.....seems to be some sorta time zone Doon their different from the rest of the country.

It does seem that there would need to be some rule about when the second half starts. Ref is in charge so he will control the start. Both teams not ready. Tough!

[noahrab]

Hate VAR, Hate Rantic.

Do away with both

Nothing wrong with VAR. We all want the correct decisions.

The implementation of it is a separate issue.

[Dodbroon]

To put it simply Celtic think VAR is biased against them and in favour of Rangers (up to a point in favour of all the other clubs they play against but basically that is swamped by their tunnel vision against Rangers). Rangers are similar but exactly the other way round. ALL of the rest of Scottish football is together in that they think VAR is biased in favour of both of the ugly sisters ( as well as biased in most if not all other areas, reporting, finance, non VAR related decisions etc. etc.). Whilst I do believe there is a noticeable bias is favour of Celtic and Rangers in all these areas it probably isn't as bad as it seems given my prejudice against them and this is probably the same with most non old firm supporters. Celtic and Rangers supporters are so entitled, biased and downright obsessed that they will never look at it that way. How any Celtic fan can possibly think that the odds, decisions etc. are fraudulently stacked against them is bizarre beyond belief ( same for the Rangers).

[BCram]

To put it simply Celtic think VAR is biased against them and in favour of Rangers (up to a point in favour of all the other clubs they play against but basically that is swamped by their tunnel vision against Rangers). Rangers are similar but exactly the other way round. ALL of the rest of Scottish football is together in that they think VAR is biased in favour of both of the ugly sisters ( as well as biased in most if not all other areas, reporting, finance, non VAR related decisions etc. etc.). Whilst I do believe there is a noticeable bias is favour of Celtic and Rangers in all these areas it probably isn't as bad as it seems given my prejudice against them and this is probably the same with most non old firm supporters. Celtic and Rangers supporters are so entitled, biased and downright obsessed that they will never look at it that way. How any Celtic fan can possibly think that the odds, decisions etc. are fraudulently stacked against them is bizarre beyond belief ( same for the Rangers).

Excellent post Dodbroon! I think their trouble is that everyone knows they should always win everything in Scotland, because of their overwhelming wealth. Sometimes their players just don't perform, it happens, and that's when they lose the plot. I don't think I can recall a situation where an OF manager has said well played about a Scottish team that beat them.Always their story is, ref was biased, or poor performance from us.

[Returnofrros]

Nothing wrong with VAR. We all want the correct decisions.

The implementation of it is a separate issue.

It's got worse and worse and worse.

I have no faith that they can implement anything right so I'd rather it was gone.

Just about every manager in league bar our own has used VAR to bleat aboot defeats as well......they may as well go back to old system and bleat about referees.