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  • #16
    Originally posted by Returnofrros View Post
    More than happy with what Elvis has done especially working in the circus with the Texan ringmaster.

    Starting to think it wud be funny to see him leave though citing constant angst from "fans"
    How much actual angst will he have felt from fans though? I don't remember many 'Pressley out' shouts and there was only one banner ever unfurled that was aimed as much at Nelms as at Pressley.

    Don't think Pressley will be caring too much about what's posted on a forum like this or any other one, if he is then he isn't really cut out for top tier football management where criticism from all quarters is part and parcel of the job. As a group of fans we're no worse in that respect than any other. Take a look over the road where many of their fans want Goodwin out and have done for well over a year as an example. I wonder if Goodwin feels under any pressure because of fan angst after delivering a significantly better season than our man? I reckon both will be more concerned about what they've delivered for their bosses than what fans are saying about them.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by BCram View Post
      The voice of reason, who would have thunk it!
      One of the few

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Deeranged View Post
        How much actual angst will he have felt from fans though? I don't remember many 'Pressley out' shouts and there was only one banner ever unfurled that was aimed as much at Nelms as at Pressley.

        Don't think Pressley will be caring too much about what's posted on a forum like this or any other one, if he is then he isn't really cut out for top tier football management where criticism from all quarters is part and parcel of the job. As a group of fans we're no worse in that respect than any other. Take a look over the road where many of their fans want Goodwin out and have done for well over a year as an example. I wonder if Goodwin feels under any pressure because of fan angst after delivering a significantly better season than our man? I reckon both will be more concerned about what they've delivered for their bosses than what fans are saying about them.
        He's already said publicly that he thought about walking and was certainly aware of the noise.

        I find him to be almost shy and I don't like guid guys getting hurt.

        Goodwin delivered significantly better season......hmmm......I beg to differ given both managers starting point and resources.....he's not even guaranteed to finish above Elvis yet.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Returnofrros View Post
          He's already said publicly that he thought about walking and was certainly aware of the noise.

          I find him to be almost shy and I don't like guid guys getting hurt.

          Goodwin delivered significantly better season......hmmm......I beg to differ given both managers starting point and resources.....he's not even guaranteed to finish above Elvis yet.
          Derby results matter a lot to most people in this city (and in East Angus of course) and contribute more to the feeling of a good or bad season than any other results.

          I get the feeling derby results mean a lot more to Jim Goodwin and his team than they do to Steven Pressley and his. But maybe they'll understand that better next season.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Returnofrros View Post
            He's already said publicly that he thought about walking and was certainly aware of the noise.

            I find him to be almost shy and I don't like guid guys getting hurt.

            Goodwin delivered significantly better season......hmmm......I beg to differ given both managers starting point and resources.....he's not even guaranteed to finish above Elvis yet.
            I'm a very shy person but have developed a thick enough skin that I can just ignore most things I don't like to hear or see and can get on with my life. Would never consider giving up a job just because some people gave me stick.

            Just like I continue to post on here despite everything

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Deeranged View Post
              I'm a very shy person but have developed a thick enough skin that I can just ignore most things I don't like to hear or see and can get on with my life. Would never consider giving up a job just because some people gave me stick.

              Just like I continue to post on here despite everything
              Again Elvis has acknowledged on numerous occasions he knows derby games are different and the importance.

              Strangely I'd rather never play them again, don't like their fans or club or the hostile atmosphere that surrounds the fixture now......well done Eddie.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Returnofrros View Post
                Again Elvis has acknowledged on numerous occasions he knows derby games are different and the importance.

                Strangely I'd rather never play them again, don't like their fans or club or the hostile atmosphere that surrounds the fixture now......well done Eddie.
                Obviously not getting the message across well enough then.
                We have been found wanting 3 out of 4 derbies,last one he got the team all wrong for a more important game for us than them
                They wanted it more, possibly Goodwin being in city longer knows the score.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Returnofrros View Post
                  Again Elvis has acknowledged on numerous occasions he knows derby games are different and the importance.
                  But has failed to show it on the park 75% of the time.

                  I get that you're a big fan of Pressley but the fact is that 8th is never better than 6th and, no matter how you spin it, there's no getting round that.

                  I didn't want him at first and believed it was a terrible appointment. However I've mellowed a bit over the season and, in reality, he's probably done better than I expected him to; outside of the derby performances. I was one of the 'down by Christmas' mob and I'm honest enough to admit I was wrong but, again in reality, I wasn't far wrong really and we're still not clear of relegation threat three games from the end of the season. I do however have a decent amount of confidence we'll avoid that and am hopeful of an 8th place finish but believe we'll be 9th or 10th.

                  Next season will be very telling for Pressley, he needs to improve performances on the park and, ideally, league placing even if that's just certain to be clear of relegation threat early enough for us all to have a relaxed run in to the season end. He has nowhere to hide next season, it'll be his squad from day one and there will be no shambolic start like there was this season. Mind you, with Nelms in charge there's no real guarantee of that.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Returnofrros View Post
                    Strangely I'd rather never play them again, don't like their fans or club or the hostile atmosphere that surrounds the fixture now......well done Eddie.
                    This I agree with. Their fans have become arrogant, superior and hateful. You used to be able to have banter with them but not now.

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                    • #25
                      Hopefully the owners back whoever is manager again next season.
                      Or even push the boat out but that is probably wishful thinking.
                      If they get a decent whack for Graham you never know.If it is Pressley he will at least have a full pre season.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by eric_sinclair View Post
                        Obviously not getting the message across well enough then.
                        We have been found wanting 3 out of 4 derbies,last one he got the team all wrong for a more important game for us than them
                        They wanted it more, possibly Goodwin being in city longer knows the score.
                        No he knows as he has said.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Deeranged View Post
                          But has failed to show it on the park 75% of the time.

                          I get that you're a big fan of Pressley but the fact is that 8th is never better than 6th and, no matter how you spin it, there's no getting round that.

                          I didn't want him at first and believed it was a terrible appointment. However I've mellowed a bit over the season and, in reality, he's probably done better than I expected him to; outside of the derby performances. I was one of the 'down by Christmas' mob and I'm honest enough to admit I was wrong but, again in reality, I wasn't far wrong really and we're still not clear of relegation threat three games from the end of the season. I do however have a decent amount of confidence we'll avoid that and am hopeful of an 8th place finish but believe we'll be 9th or 10th.

                          Next season will be very telling for Pressley, he needs to improve performances on the park and, ideally, league placing even if that's just certain to be clear of relegation threat early enough for us all to have a relaxed run in to the season end. He has nowhere to hide next season, it'll be his squad from day one and there will be no shambolic start like there was this season. Mind you, with Nelms in charge there's no real guarantee of that.
                          His team's play to the end, Docs folded.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Deeranged View Post
                            But has failed to show it on the park 75% of the time.

                            I get that you're a big fan of Pressley but the fact is that 8th is never better than 6th and, no matter how you spin it, there's no getting round that.

                            I didn't want him at first and believed it was a terrible appointment. However I've mellowed a bit over the season and, in reality, he's probably done better than I expected him to; outside of the derby performances. I was one of the 'down by Christmas' mob and I'm honest enough to admit I was wrong but, again in reality, I wasn't far wrong really and we're still not clear of relegation threat three games from the end of the season. I do however have a decent amount of confidence we'll avoid that and am hopeful of an 8th place finish but believe we'll be 9th or 10th.

                            Next season will be very telling for Pressley, he needs to improve performances on the park and, ideally, league placing even if that's just certain to be clear of relegation threat early enough for us all to have a relaxed run in to the season end. He has nowhere to hide next season, it'll be his squad from day one and there will be no shambolic start like there was this season. Mind you, with Nelms in charge there's no real guarantee of that.
                            Dundee were NEVER in danger of finishing 12th

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                            • #29
                              To be clear of relegation early enough is finishing 6th......otherwise you will only be 7 or 8 pts max from 11th......it's setting impossible tasks

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                              • #30
                                The fans have been far more jittery than the team, the players I've met and spoken too are very complimentary of the the coach and the tactics.......aye they would be.....but most talk up Elvis without any prompting.

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