Official Nelmsy Campus Countdown

[BP33]

I get that and seems to be what everyone in favour falls back on.......but point by point

Better facilities...... undoubtedly.......but do many care .......maybe sell more hospo......and a more pleasant experience but it wont draw in any more imho and it's never gonna be as pleasant as sitting on your own settee.

Hopefully better atmosphere........so that's a hope.......I think it possibly will be on game for game basis......but never as good as those classics at Dens......Cologne, Hibs, Dabs 87, Dumbarton.

Same part of ground.......this shud be done at Dens but remember folk winnae be happy if sun is in their eyes in winter ��

Safe standing......only really for early 20s to ****s.....so mibbe 500 folk max.

What I'm looking for BP is more from FPS on why this will benefit the football club, how it secured the future, what happens when they go, what guarantees their will be, how much if any of the added ons will help Dundee FC or is it the case if we are making/make money we will continue to subsidise.

There's so many question between relationship of football club to campus......and I'll never trust them fully given their record and petty way they have dealt with main fans group and refuse to accept their legal right.

No kink in any main stand is gonna cover that up.

They haven’t been perfect by any means, but they have provided stability to the Club.

[islaydarkblue]

They haven’t been perfect by any means, but they have provided stability to the Club.

Have you studied the latest set of Dundee Football Club Limited annual accounts for the year ending 31st May 2022. They are horrendous with the debts increasing and the Club incurring an annual loss nearly every season. From memory the latest set of annual accounts for the year ending 31st May 2022 showed a loss of £880k.

[islaydarkblue]

Some achievement.

You must be so proud.

I certainly am. Thank goodness for all seater football stadiums as there is no way that I would now stand throughout a football match.

[islaydarkblue]

There is when teams get the first 3 sections of the main stand. But you don’t go to games against the ugly sisters.

That is correct. I no longer attend home games against Rangers and Celtic because of the hostile atmosphere in the Away section plus the biased refereeing in favour of Rangers and Celtic. Judging by the gaps in the home stands when the games are televised live on SKY a lot of Dundee supporters do likewise.

[Deeranged]

Have you studied the latest set of Dundee Football Club Limited annual accounts for the year ending 31st May 2022. They are horrendous with the debts increasing and the Club incurring an annual loss nearly every season. From memory the latest set of annual accounts for the year ending 31st May 2022 showed a loss of £880k.

There is an annual operating loss however is the loss not being covered by Keyes?

[eric_sinclair]

Have you studied the latest set of Dundee Football Club Limited annual accounts for the year ending 31st May 2022. They are horrendous with the debts increasing and the Club incurring an annual loss nearly every season. From memory the latest set of annual accounts for the year ending 31st May 2022 showed a loss of £880k.

Is it a bank debt or a tax debt?

[BP33]

Have you studied the latest set of Dundee Football Club Limited annual accounts for the year ending 31st May 2022. They are horrendous with the debts increasing and the Club incurring an annual loss nearly every season. From memory the latest set of annual accounts for the year ending 31st May 2022 showed a loss of £880k.

As you well know these losses are covered by FPS. The debts are obviously going to increase, if the fans, don’t come out and support the team. Also due to the lack of facilities at Dens, our commercial opportunities are limited.

[BCram]

As you well know these losses are covered by FPS. The debts are obviously going to increase, if the fans, don’t come out and support the team. Also due to the lack of facilities at Dens, our commercial opportunities are limited.

The worry is that despite all the losses incurred to date there seems little attempt to increase turnover by playing up the efforts of the manager and his team. Everything gets pulled off this really positive message by the Campy project. Maybe saying "everything" is an exaggeration, but I can't help but think that if the pitch was in good nick and there was no Campy project we would be absolutely flying.

[Deeranged]

The worry is that despite all the losses incurred to date there seems little attempt to increase turnover by playing up the efforts of the manager and his team. Everything gets pulled off this really positive message by the Campy project. Maybe saying "everything" is an exaggeration, but I can't help but think that if the pitch was in good nick and there was no Campy project we would be absolutely flying.

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[BP33]

The worry is that despite all the losses incurred to date there seems little attempt to increase turnover by playing up the efforts of the manager and his team. Everything gets pulled off this really positive message by the Campy project. Maybe saying "everything" is an exaggeration, but I can't help but think that if the pitch was in good nick and there was no Campy project we would be absolutely flying.

Unfortunately, there is no so called sleeping giant. Our stay at home fans would still find an excuse not to turn up, even if it was a tenner.

Look at Facebook and Twitter, And DBF, the guys that don’t go, shout the loudest.

[Returnofrros]

Unfortunately, there is no so called sleeping giant. Our stay at home fans would still find an excuse not to turn up, even if it was a tenner.

Look at Facebook and Twitter, And DBF, the guys that don’t go, shout the loudest.

We cud get our base up with a bit better pricing and marketing.

I said 10 years ago on here we shud have a target to get to 5,000 season tic holders and a plan on how to get there.

It won't just magically happen.

We have been really sloppy in that regard since before the yanks took over.

Other teams paying up next year's tics for example is a very good idea.

We seem so dependent on the same people buying every year.

We have to run the club better and the connection between the club and the supporters has to be better.....it can be better......but I'm not sure there's that much appetite for it from the club.

We seem to be an inconvenience at times rather than the beating heart.

[Returnofrros]

The club shop is the perfect example.

[BCram]

We cud get our base up with a bit better pricing and marketing.

I said 10 years ago on here we shud have a target to get to 5,000 season tic holders and a plan on how to get there.

It won't just magically happen.

We have been really sloppy in that regard since before the yanks took over.

Other teams paying up next year's tics for example is a very good idea.

We seem so dependent on the same people buying every year.

We have to run the club better and the connection between the club and the supporters has to be better.....it can be better......but I'm not sure there's that much appetite for it from the club.

We seem to be an inconvenience at times rather than the beating heart.

Kinda what I think too. We seem under resourced. I think the Campy stadium will need more supporters to make it work so why not try to get more fans now. Youngsters are a big plus. How do we get more of them?
Used to have Junior Dees, Open Day where the players turned up to speak to fans. Apologies if these still happen and I don't know!

[Returnofrros]

Kinda what I think too. We seem under resourced. I think the Campy stadium will need more supporters to make it work so why not try to get more fans now. Youngsters are a big plus. How do we get more of them?
Used to have Junior Dees, Open Day where the players turned up to speak to fans. Apologies if these still happen and I don't know!

I think season tic membership the best way

I know this is a bit of a stretch.

And I know I've said in the past that people that are struggling financially ain't gonna go.....but now I think people that are ok financially have 2nd thoughts at times.

If there could be a way to let folk save infrequently towards a season tic.......a kinda DFC savings club with maybe 2 or 3 businesses across the city taking in money an outlet at club shop and a wee booth underneath Cox.

It's maybe far fetched.

But imagine beating hearts or Aberdeen, good game, 1 minute job to stick a fiver or tenner towards season tic as your coming out.

£400 in a oner is getting harder for a lot of people.

[islaydarkblue]

There is an annual operating loss however is the loss not being covered by Keyes?

That is a good question and unfortunately the Dundee Football Club Limited unlike the Dabs annual accounts are very basic and tell us very little.
The Dabs have an Annual General meeting for their shareholders every year but FPS will not hold an Annual General Meeting for the Dundee Football Club Limited shareholders.