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  • [QUOTE=Deeranged;40690045]
    Originally posted by islaydarkblue View Post

    I looked at the plan issued most recently and it shows nothing of the sort.
    I saw the plans in Bob Hynd’s office in 2018 and it showed that Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited were planning to use the same original access and exit road for the NCR Camperdown factory for the new stadium development car parks at Campy Nou.
    There was nothing in the original 2017 plans about using the back door access road for the NCR Camperdown factory to access the new stadium development car parks.

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    • [QUOTE=islaydarkblue;40690829]
      Originally posted by Deeranged View Post
      I saw the plans in Bob Hynd’s office in 2018 and it showed that Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited were planning to use the same original access and exit road for the NCR Camperdown factory for the new stadium development car parks at Campy Nou.
      There was nothing in the original 2017 plans about using the back door access road for the NCR Camperdown factory to access the new stadium development car parks.
      And it was changed to comply. There are no longer plans to access the site from an existing slip road.

      What the actual f--k is wrong with you?

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      • [QUOTE=Deeranged;40690918]
        Originally posted by islaydarkblue View Post

        And it was changed to comply. There are no longer plans to access the site from an existing slip road.

        What the actual f--k is wrong with you?
        I was speaking about the original plans in September 2017 which were changed because Transport Scotland told Nelms in 2018 that they would only look at allowing vehicles to exit from the new stadium car parks onto the A90 slip road for the Camperdown flyover if they could show detailed plans for five separate exit roads from the new stadium car parks which were unworkable.

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        • [QUOTE=islaydarkblue;40691156]
          Originally posted by Deeranged View Post
          I was speaking about the original plans in September 2017 which were changed because Transport Scotland told Nelms in 2018 that they would only look at allowing vehicles to exit from the new stadium car parks onto the A90 slip road for the Camperdown flyover if they could show detailed plans for five separate exit roads from the new stadium car parks which were unworkable.
          And that's completely irrelevant now so why bang on about it and try to use it as a reason to say the planning is wrong?

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          • [QUOTE=Deeranged;40691310]
            Originally posted by islaydarkblue View Post

            And that's completely irrelevant now so why bang on about it and try to use it as a reason to say the planning is wrong?
            I suggest that you read the last paragraph of the enclosed article on the STV news website. https://news.stv.tv/sport/dundee-to-...sport-scotland
            In it Nelmsy states that it is only planning permission in principle and they can get the finer details sorted out when we go to full planning (permission).
            Assuming that this statement is correct then full planning permission for the new stadium development site at Campy Nou is going to take a while and we will be playing in Dens Park for more than the next two years Nelmsy stated in the enclosed article.

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            • [QUOTE=islaydarkblue;40691546]
              Originally posted by Deeranged View Post
              I suggest that you read the last paragraph of the enclosed article on the STV news website. https://news.stv.tv/sport/dundee-to-...sport-scotland
              In it Nelmsy states that it is only planning permission in principle and they can get the finer details sorted out when we go to full planning (permission).
              Assuming that this statement is correct then full planning permission for the new stadium development site at Campy Nou is going to take a while and we will be playing in Dens Park for more than the next two years Nelmsy stated in the enclosed article.
              And what does that have to do with access off a slip road?

              Have you been to see your GP yet?

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              • [QUOTE=Deeranged;40691589]
                Originally posted by islaydarkblue View Post

                And what does that have to do with access off a slip road?

                Have you been to see your GP yet?
                It doesn't. BUT I think Islay makes a good point about the club saying that they expect to be at Dens for a couple of years. Anyone remember how long it took to complete the Bobby Cox and the Bob Shankly stands from planning permission being granted and completion?

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                • [QUOTE=BCram;40691666]
                  Originally posted by Deeranged View Post
                  It doesn't. BUT I think Islay makes a good point about the club saying that they expect to be at Dens for a couple of years. Anyone remember how long it took to complete the Bobby Cox and the Bob Shankly stands from planning permission being granted and completion?
                  BUT... he was challenged on his continued assertion that the tun off from a slip road was an issue to be resolved. It isn't, he knows it and he changed the subject.

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                  • [QUOTE=Deeranged;40691734]
                    Originally posted by BCram View Post

                    BUT... he was challenged on his continued assertion that the tun off from a slip road was an issue to be resolved. It isn't, he knows it and he changed the subject.
                    Everybody knows it, so why not move on? Think about what needs to happen at Dens if we are going to be there for at least 2 maybe 5 years?

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                    • [QUOTE=BCram;40691759]
                      Originally posted by Deeranged View Post
                      Everybody knows it, so why not move on? Think about what needs to happen at Dens if we are going to be there for at least 2 maybe 5 years?
                      I'd like Islay to admit he was wrong. It's a big ask I know, but I'd like it to happen




                      Then we can move on

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                      • [QUOTE=Deeranged;40691589]
                        Originally posted by islaydarkblue View Post

                        And what does that have to do with access off a slip road?

                        Have you been to see your GP yet?
                        Which part of my original post that I saw the original plans for the new stadium development at Campy Nou in Bob Hynd?s office in 2018 do you not understand.

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                        • [QUOTE=islaydarkblue;40691901]
                          Originally posted by Deeranged View Post
                          Which part of my original post that I saw the original plans for the new stadium development at Campy Nou in Bob Hynd?s office in 2018 do you not understand.
                          I also saw the original plan and was also told by Bob Hynd that the access had to be changed, which it was. But you're dredging it up like it actually matters - it just doesn't

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                            • [QUOTE=Deeranged;40691957]
                              Originally posted by islaydarkblue View Post

                              I also saw the original plan and was also told by Bob Hynd that the access had to be changed, which it was. But you're dredging it up like it actually matters - it just doesn't
                              Did the change in the access provide a solution to the problem caused by the original access proposal.

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                              • Originally posted by BCram View Post

                                Did the change in the access provide a solution to the problem caused by the original access proposal.
                                No, it just meant a rethink

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