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[islaydarkblue]

I do not understand all the whohah about Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited submitting Planning permission in principle for their new stadium development at Camperdown to Dundee City Council.
Planning permission in principle is similar to Outline planning permission which could have been submitted immediately after their inaugural Pre Application Notification meeting in September 2017 instead of delaying in it until February 2024.

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FAO Islay

Have you started penning your objections yet? Are you willing to admit you were wrong about the plans only showing one access / egress?

[islaydarkblue]

FAO Islay

Have you started penning your objections yet? Are you willing to admit you were wrong about the plans only showing one access / egress?

There is no point submitting objections until Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited submit their full planning application.
Nobody normally submits objections to an Outline Planning application which is basically what is the Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited Planning Permission in Principle application.
A friend recently told me that in Canada an application for Planning Permission in Principle has to also show that the planning application is fully funded.

[islaydarkblue]

FAO Islay

Have you started penning your objections yet? Are you willing to admit you were wrong about the plans only showing one access / egress?

It is not my fault that Holmes Millar who designed the new concept plans for the new stadium development showed a vehicle exiting the new stadium car parks exit road towards the A90 Kingsway bypass of Dundee. They mist have taken the exit road from another new stadium concept design such as Hampden Park, Glasgow which they carried out for the SFA. No mention from Ian Maxwell, Chief Executive of the SFA about the new Hampden Park getting built.
I haven’t seen the plans on the Dundee City Council website.
I had look last night but I could not find anything.
Last year it was stated that the entrance road to the new stadium car parks would be from the A90 Kingsway by pass with a separate exit road via the Dayton Drive which is the current service road at rear of the ice arena, cinema and Premier Inn exiting at the mini roundabout on the Dundee to Coupar Angus road at the foot of Faraday Street.
At the second Pre Application Notification meeting in the Landmark Hotel on Monday 26th September 2022 it was stated that all the supporters buses would have to leave the stadium car parks after the end of every home game before any cars were allowed to leave the new stadium car parks.

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It is not my fault that Holmes Millar who designed the new concept plans for the new stadium development showed a vehicle exiting the new stadium car parks exit road towards the A90 Kingsway bypass of Dundee. They mist have taken the exit road from another new stadium concept design such as Hampden Park, Glasgow which they carried out for the SFA. No mention from Ian Maxwell, Chief Executive of the SFA about the new Hampden Park getting built.
I haven’t seen the plans on the Dundee City Council website.
I had look last night but I could not find anything.
Last year it was stated that the entrance road to the new stadium car parks would be from the A90 Kingsway by pass with a separate exit road via the Dayton Drive which is the current service road at rear of the ice arena, cinema and Premier Inn exiting at the mini roundabout on the Dundee to Coupar Angus road at the foot of Faraday Street.
At the second Pre Application Notification meeting in the Landmark Hotel on Monday 26th September 2022 it was stated that all the supporters buses would have to leave the stadium car parks after the end of every home game before any cars were allowed to leave the new stadium car parks.

Thanks for admitting the second exit at Dayton Drive was always in the plans despite your absolute insistence that this wasn't the case. It seems that because an artist's impression didn't have a Ford Focus entering or leaving from there that you've assumed there was no entry / egress planned.

They're now talking about upgrading the roads and roundabout at Dayton Drive / Coupar Angus Road to accommodate increased traffic and also has details for buses in and out with a bus turning circle included.

I don't think it's unusual to allow supporters' buses away before other traffic. The police regularly stop traffic on Kingsway at Old Glamis Road to let escorted buses on their way. It makes sense to be honest.

[davydook]

It is not my fault that Holmes Millar who designed the new concept plans for the new stadium development showed a vehicle exiting the new stadium car parks exit road towards the A90 Kingsway bypass of Dundee. They mist have taken the exit road from another new stadium concept design such as Hampden Park, Glasgow which they carried out for the SFA. No mention from Ian Maxwell, Chief Executive of the SFA about the new Hampden Park getting built.
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Could have been a women driver..

[islaydarkblue]

Thanks for admitting the second exit at Dayton Drive was always in the plans despite your absolute insistence that this wasn't the case. It seems that because an artist's impression didn't have a Ford Focus entering or leaving from there that you've assumed there was no entry / egress planned.

They're now talking about upgrading the roads and roundabout at Dayton Drive / Coupar Angus Road to accommodate increased traffic and also has details for buses in and out with a bus turning circle included.

I don't think it's unusual to allow supporters' buses away before other traffic. The police regularly stop traffic on Kingsway at Old Glamis Road to let escorted buses on their way. It makes sense to be honest.

I hope that it is Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited who will be paying for the cost of upgrading the roads and roundabout at Dayton Drive/Coupar Angus road roundabout.

[islaydarkblue]

Could have been a women driver..

The new stadium concept plan designed by Holmes Millar should have been correct in the first place before it was published in December 2023.

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I hope that it is Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited who will be paying for the cost of upgrading the roads and roundabout at Dayton Drive/Coupar Angus road roundabout.

I'd expect that to be covered in the overall cost of the project given that it's an integral part of the project. I'd also hope that Dundee City Council would put up some cash for the overall development given that it will ultimately benefit all the fine people of Dundee.

[islaydarkblue]

I'd expect that to be covered in the overall cost of the project given that it's an integral part of the project. I'd also hope that Dundee City Council would put up some cash for the overall development given that it will ultimately benefit all the fine people of Dundee.

According to the article in the Courier the new interchange on the Kingsway is to be between the BP petrol station and the Coupar Angus roundabout. This means that it could easily be at the existing entrance road to the former NCR Camperdown Factory next to where the Development Land For Sale sign is currently situated.

[eric_sinclair]

Heard that the council will look favourably but could easily be just a rumour.
Quite a decent source

[davydook]

I'd expect that to be covered in the overall cost of the project given that it's an integral part of the project. I'd also hope that Dundee City Council would put up some cash for the overall development given that it will ultimately benefit all the fine people of Dundee.

Well they're pumping £14 million into the Bell St carpark, so you never know.

[Returnofrros]

Heard that the council will look favourably but could easily be just a rumour.
Quite a decent source

It's fairly obvious that's where the council want it.

But can they withstand the fury that's about to happen.

Council happy, nelms happy but like mass immigration......no one asked us.

[eric_sinclair]

It's fairly obvious that's where the council want it.

But can they withstand the fury that's about to happen.

Council happy, nelms happy but like mass immigration......no one asked us.

No many owners listen really tho,west ham fans probably had a major gripe,pubs closing etc but they just went ahead with the move.
Saying that the speed oh this project could easily have had a few meetings we the fans.