Official Nelmsy Campus Countdown

[Returnofrros]

Article in courier today Fae some blogger.

Again all very very very generic stuff on why we shud move with little or no evidence to back it up.

Don't think insulting the civic trust will help matters either.

Again if it's all about crowds how come Nelmsy does pretty much nothing to increase crowds at Dens or very very slow to do so.

I think if this is built ( or st m type stadium built ) people are gonna be a bit shocked at no huge upturn in crowds.

I think midweek crowds in particular will suffer.

[eric_sinclair]

Article in courier today Fae some blogger.

Again all very very very generic stuff on why we shud move with little or no evidence to back it up.

Don't think insulting the civic trust will help matters either.

Again if it's all about crowds how come Nelmsy does pretty much nothing to increase crowds at Dens or very very slow to do so.

I think if this is built ( or st m type stadium built ) people are gonna be a bit shocked at no huge upturn in crowds.

I think midweek crowds in particular will suffer.

Could it be that dens is not worth refurbishing so they need to move?Ive nae idea how you would even start to sort out the south enclosure and the land behind it.The main stand would be far easier but I think they are looking at ways to generate more cash like st johnstone do.

[eric_sinclair]

Interesting to see that wrexham have more than doubled their support since the takeover in 2020 some doing.

[islaydarkblue]

I enclose an article after Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited purchased the title deeds of Dens Park from John Bennett. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67000863
In the article John Nelms states that John Bennett came to Dundee Football Club’s rescue in their hour of need in 2009.
This is wrong. Calum Melville was bankrolling Dundee Football Club in 2009 to the reputed tune of £150,000 per month and everything was wonderful or so we thought before it all came crashing down at the beginning of October 2010.
After Lloyds Bank ‘rescued’ HBOS in 2008 they started to write off the vast bulk of outstanding debts previously due to HBOS.
This included £7 million of debt due to HBOS by Dundee Football Club Limited as a result of debts outstanding after the end of Admin 1.
Lloyds Bank wrote off £6.5 million and sold the title deeds of Dens Park to John Bennett for £500,000.

[islaydarkblue]

Interesting to see that wrexham have more than doubled their support since the takeover in 2020 some doing.

Wrexham were playing in the Conference League with little likelihood of promotion when they were taken over in 2020.
A similar situation happened with Gretna and we all know how that ended.

[Returnofrros]

Could it be that dens is not worth refurbishing so they need to move?Ive nae idea how you would even start to sort out the south enclosure and the land behind it.The main stand would be far easier but I think they are looking at ways to generate more cash like st johnstone do.

Bulldozer.

Build anywhere now.

[ROMA84]

Ask yourself the question. Would you as a builder take on the job of building a new stadium knowing there is a chance of not getting paid and fighting in the court to be offered £6 for every £100 due?

[Returnofrros]

Interesting to see that wrexham have more than doubled their support since the takeover in 2020 some doing.

Yep, yanks biggest failing.

[Returnofrros]

Ask yourself the question. Would you as a builder take on the job of building a new stadium knowing there is a chance of not getting paid and fighting in the court to be offered £6 for every £100 due?

Yeah happens all the time, no as often as the Bomber ❤️ being abused by sectarian halfwits but more than dabs can be named in Dee starting 11.😎

[eric_sinclair]

Wrexham were playing in the Conference League with little likelihood of promotion when they were taken over in 2020.
A similar situation happened with Gretna and we all know how that ended.

No they were in the national league and had been for around 5 seasons prior to the takeover,they now have more than doubled their fanbase.Nothing like gretna as they have plenty of history going back decades.

[islaydarkblue]

Could it be that dens is not worth refurbishing so they need to move?Ive nae idea how you would even start to sort out the south enclosure and the land behind it.The main stand would be far easier but I think they are looking at ways to generate more cash like st johnstone do.

St Johnstone were fortunate.
They were donated the land for McDiarmid Park by a retired farmer Bruce McDiarmid who had received a lot money selling his land for the western bypass of Perth and they sold Muirton Park to ASDA providing the owners of Perth Ice Rink which was next door to Muirton Park also sold the ice rink to ASDA.
The days of supermarket companies purchasing Football grounds are long gone.
Tesco purchased St Mirren’s ground at Love Street but due to a downturn in trading Tesco never built their supermarket at Love Street and they subsequently sold the site which now has social housing on it.
You also need to remember that St Johnstone FC are the sole professional football club in Perth whereas in Dundee it is unlikely that Dundee United supporters will be cremated in the crematorium at Campy Nou nor use the restaurants in the football stadium for funeral teas.
The profits from the bars and restaurants in the new stadium will go to the owners of the site to repay their loans to pay for the cost of the new stadium which alone was reported to cost between £40 million and £50 million two years ago.

[eric_sinclair]

Ask yourself the question. Would you as a builder take on the job of building a new stadium knowing there is a chance of not getting paid and fighting in the court to be offered £6 for every £100 due?

Also ask yourself a question the scottish government is on its arse,cuts everywhere yet are allowing dundee united and hamilton to pay almost 3 million on a loan over almost 25 years!!

[eric_sinclair]

St Johnstone were fortunate.
They were donated the land for McDiarmid Park by a retired farmer Bruce McDiarmid who had received a lot money selling his land for the western bypass of Perth and they sold Muirton Park to ASDA providing the owners of Perth Ice Rink which was next door to Muirton Park also sold the ice rink to ASDA.
The days of supermarket companies purchasing Football grounds are long gone.
Tesco purchased St Mirren’s ground at Love Street but due to a downturn in trading Tesco never built their supermarket at Love Street and they subsequently sold the site which now has social housing on it.
You also need to remember that St Johnstone FC are the sole professional football club in Perth whereas in Dundee it is unlikely that Dundee United supporters will be cremated in the crematorium at Campy Nou nor use the restaurants in the football stadium for funeral teas.
The profits from the bars and restaurants in the new stadium will go to the owners of the site to repay their loans to pay for the cost of the new stadium which alone was reported to cost between £40 million and £50 million two years ago.

Islay should we just turn the lights aff at dens they and call it a day,because we have had fans on the board(shambles) and there does not seem to be anyone out there wanted to buy the club from fps.
So the scenario is we hope our owners now succeed and we move to a new stadium or we end up part time in league 1.

[Returnofrros]

St Johnstone were fortunate.
They were donated the land for McDiarmid Park by a retired farmer Bruce McDiarmid who had received a lot money selling his land for the western bypass of Perth and they sold Muirton Park to ASDA providing the owners of Perth Ice Rink which was next door to Muirton Park also sold the ice rink to ASDA.
The days of supermarket companies purchasing Football grounds are long gone.
Tesco purchased St Mirren’s ground at Love Street but due to a downturn in trading Tesco never built their supermarket at Love Street and they subsequently sold the site which now has social housing on it.
You also need to remember that St Johnstone FC are the sole professional football club in Perth whereas in Dundee it is unlikely that Dundee United supporters will be cremated in the crematorium at Campy Nou nor use the restaurants in the football stadium for funeral teas.
The profits from the bars and restaurants in the new stadium will go to the owners of the site to repay their loans to pay for the cost of the new stadium which alone was reported to cost between £40 million and £50 million two years ago.

Dinnae think folk are fussed where they are cremated.....they are deid.....as Hector wud say.

I quite enjoy a dab funeral. 😎

[Returnofrros]

Islay should we just turn the lights aff at dens they and call it a day,because we have had fans on the board(shambles) and there does not seem to be anyone out there wanted to buy the club from fps.
So the scenario is we hope our owners now succeed and we move to a new stadium or we end up part time in league 1.

Model club, surely no.