Official Nelmsy Campus Countdown

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Apart from a couple of videos.

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**** 97 pages now

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And a public tantrum

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We now have Nelms side of this saga in letter published on DFC website.

I think we will now get the other side of the saga.

At least it's informative.....whether true or not that's for everybody to make their own mind up.

But this is the first time they are alledging council bias and incompetence.......is that the way to go?........only if they have higher powers on side.......otherwise this will end in gnashing of teeth and tears.

Tannadice anyone?

16 days

[islaydarkblue]

We now have Nelms side of this saga in letter published on DFC website.

I think we will now get the other side of the saga.

At least it's informative.....whether true or not that's for everybody to make their own mind up.

But this is the first time they are alledging council bias and incompetence.......is that the way to go?........only if they have higher powers on side.......otherwise this will end in gnashing of teeth and tears.

Tannadice anyone?

16 days

I see that Nelms is still persisting with Emelda MacLean of About Planning Limited who was present at the second pre application meeting in the Landmark Hotel on 27th September 2022.
I was not impressed with her knowledge about the new stadium development site at the former NCR Camperdown playing fields.
My wife and I asked Emelda MacLean two questions about the site which she could not answer.
Nelms states in his statement that they (Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited) looked at the site where the Eden Project is to be situated but rejected it due to transport issues.
The council also told them about the site at Camperdown.
The question I would like John Nelms to answer.
Did he (Nelms) tell Dundee City Council that Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited (DBPHL) were wanting to build a new sports centre similar to the aborted one at Caird Park on the site at Camperdown or the former gas works in Dock Street.
Alternatively did John Nelms tell Dundee City Council that DBPHL were planning to build a 15,000eater new football stadium, crematorium, hotel, shops and luxury housing on the site at Camperdown or the site of the former gas works in Dock Street
I am assuming that the Dundee City Council officials in June 2016 thought that DBPHL were only planning to build a new large sports centre at the site of the old gas works in Dock Street or at the former NCR Camperdown playing fields otherwise the Dundee City Council officials would have never suggested these sites.

[islaydarkblue]

For the attention of the posters on TDB who are complaining about Transport Scotland not objecting to the Eden Project being built on the site of the former gas works in Dock Street, Dundee despite the likely transport problems.
Transport Scotland are only responsible for the Trunk Road network throughout Scotland with Dock Street, Dundee not being situated on the trunk road network throughout Scotland.
If Nelms had submitted the Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited planning application for a new football stadium on the site of the former gas works in Dock Street, Dundee Transport Scotland would not have been interested in the planning application.
The Dundee City Council planning officers and committee members would have had to bite on the bullet and make their own decision.

[BCram]

I see that Nelms is still persisting with Emelda MacLean of About Planning Limited who was present at the second pre application meeting in the Landmark Hotel on 27th September 2022.
I was not impressed with her knowledge about the new stadium development site at the former NCR Camperdown playing fields.
My wife and I asked Emelda MacLean two questions about the site which she could not answer.
Nelms states in his statement that they (Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited) looked at the site where the Eden Project is to be situated but rejected it due to transport issues.
The council also told them about the site at Camperdown.
The question I would like John Nelms to answer.
Did he (Nelms) tell Dundee City Council that Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited (DBPHL) were wanting to build a new sports centre similar to the aborted one at Caird Park on the site at Camperdown or the former gas works in Dock Street.
Alternatively did John Nelms tell Dundee City Council that DBPHL were planning to build a 15,000eater new football stadium, crematorium, hotel, shops and luxury housing on the site at Camperdown or the site of the former gas works in Dock Street
I am assuming that the Dundee City Council officials in June 2016 thought that DBPHL were only planning to build a new large sports centre at the site of the old gas works in Dock Street or at the former NCR Camperdown playing fields otherwise the Dundee City Council officials would have never suggested these sites.

Sorry Islay, don't understand the point you are trying to make. What is the difference between a large sports centre and a football stadium? Surely the large sports centre at Caird Park was needing access from a trunk road, so what's the reason why the stadium can't be built using an access road of a different section of the same trunk road.

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Getting tight now

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Transport Scotland have offered 2 solutions to the slip road issue , both rejected by Nelms , probably due to the cost , but surely he must let the fans know why

[BCram]

Transport Scotland have offered 2 solutions to the slip road issue , both rejected by Nelms , probably due to the cost , but surely he must let the fans know why

I have lost the plot with the roads issue. What are the two solutions? Can you give a link? It sounds odd because I thought that TS did not volunteer any solutions, ever. Just interested to be better informed and not meaning any criticism of your post.

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Transport Scotland have offered 2 solutions to the slip road issue , both rejected by Nelms , probably due to the cost , but surely he must let the fans know why

Nobody but nobody is coming up smelling of roses here.

Council now accused of bias and at worst corruption.....and there's certainly evidence for the former

Transport Scotland......look belligerent and uncooperative

Nelms......looks like he thought he cud bulldoze this through and has upset AHH bugger along the way.

Fans now saying let's go above the council.....but hasn't even been to the council yet.

We are 4 years and counting from when nelms said we wud be in......it's not even at planning in principle whether " on steroids " or not.

We now have an 180k a year and a £150k a year meeting with Nelms......the 180k man hasn't been in contact since Feb 24.....a farcical situation.

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I believe certain of our number said a while ago that this was never going to happen

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I believe certain of our number said a while ago that this was never going to happen

I reluctantly want it to happen as the doomsday scenario I've been pointing oot since this stadium started getting bogged down in beuracracy....gets closer every few months that passes.

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I believe certain of our number said a while ago that this was never going to happen

And nothing from DSA or D4L.....pathetic