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  • #61
    Originally posted by BCram View Post
    Absolutely. I think there's a correction coming and it's not going to be helpful to have large numbers of people who are economic migrants, and fundamentally disagree with Scottish values.
    Swinney was banging on today at First Minister’s Question Time in Holyrood that the only solution for Scotland is independence and he can pull all the levers.
    Swinney is a ‘one trick’ pony.
    Swinney does not seem to understand that an independent Scotland would immediately lose their current ?63 billion annual handout from Westminster and they would not be able to balance the books without huge tax increases, large public spending cuts or borrowing the money which would have to be repaid in full including interest due.
    Failure to do that would result in Swinney or whoever is the First Minister having to go cap in hand for a large bailout from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) with the IMF dictating the rules to be imposed to balance the Scottish Government’s books.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Returnofrros View Post
      This dosent apply now but did at turn of century.

      I worked for DWP for 2 years.

      During a wee bit of state pension training it becomes obvious how our country was disadvantaging our own. You used to have to have 44 years stamp and 39 for a woman to receive full state pension.

      I f you were a recent immigrant this dropped down to a percentage of how many years you had been legal here.

      So for example been here since age 45 you maybe had to do 18 years.....think it was 90% but can't remember exactly.....minimum time was ten years I think.

      So yo come across at 55 do 8 years on sick (stamp paid for you) or 8 out of ten years working.....you got full state pension.

      Someone's mother maybe brought up family maybe paid small stamp for a few years say had 36 years.....didn't get full state pension.

      When I pointed out the injustice of this, I got blank stares, labelled as the 2nd coming of Oswald Mosley and told that's the way it is.

      This dosent apply to new state pension.
      You now need 35 years stamps for a full state pension.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by islaydarkblue View Post
        You now need 35 years stamps for a full state pension.
        Now you do.

        Under old system it was 39 and 44

        And as above there was that stupid exemption for folk who were immigrants.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Returnofrros View Post
          Now you do.

          Under old system it was 39 and 44

          And as above there was that stupid exemption for folk who were immigrants.
          Is there any way that people who have been unable to work receive more than the basic state pension when they reach retirement age?

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          • #65
            Originally posted by BCram View Post
            Is there any way that people who have been unable to work receive more than the basic state pension when they reach retirement age?
            Yes

            Minimum is ?227.10 per week I think.

            So if you ain't getting that will be topped up to that as a single person.

            You can also apply for Scottish version of attendance allowance if you aren't currently on Scottish adult disability payment.

            More than likely receive council tax reduction and/or housing benefit if in rented accomodation.

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            • #66
              When I first started in insurance state pension was ?63....1989.....if I remember correctly

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              • #67
                Which is the equivalent of ?168 today

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                • #68
                  Average UK pensioner ?407 per week

                  Minimum wage full time job 21 ?22,200

                  Bear in mind a pensioner will have add ons....like SAD or AA

                  I accept that not all pensioners will be on anything like ?407 but that's UK average.

                  Youngster will have much more expenses plus NI and will have had no time to build up savings......so why the discount at aulder age for match instead of younger.

                  Answers on a postcard.....to that's how it's always worked and that's how it will continue to work, Dens park, Dundee

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Returnofrros View Post
                    Average UK pensioner ?407 per week

                    Minimum wage full time job 21 ?22,200

                    Bear in mind a pensioner will have add ons....like SAD or AA

                    I accept that not all pensioners will be on anything like ?407 but that's UK average.

                    Youngster will have much more expenses plus NI and will have had no time to build up savings......so why the discount at aulder age for match instead of younger.

                    Answers on a postcard.....to that's how it's always worked and that's how it will continue to work, Dens park, Dundee
                    Pensioners will only have add ons paid by the DWP if they do not also have company pension.
                    If you scrap the reduced prices for OAPs at Dens Park then the home attendances will plummet as Dundee Football Club has an aged support with a lot of supporters especially amongst the season ticket holders who are OAPs. If you do not believe me then take a look in the Main Stand at the next home game outwith the home games against Rangers and Celtic which will be on Saturday 29th November 2025 against St Mirren.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by islaydarkblue View Post
                      Pensioners will only have add ons paid by the DWP if they do not also have company pension.
                      If you scrap the reduced prices for OAPs at Dens Park then the home attendances will plummet as Dundee Football Club has an aged support with a lot of supporters especially amongst the season ticket holders who are OAPs. If you do not believe me then take a look in the Main Stand at the next home game outwith the home games against Rangers and Celtic which will be on Saturday 29th November 2025 against St Mirren.
                      Do over 65s only go to Dens because it's cheaper for them to do so than it is for other adults then?

                      You really don't have the right to comment on why anyone goes to Dens to follow the team on the park because you don't do so yourself.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by islaydarkblue View Post
                        Pensioners will only have add ons paid by the DWP if they do not also have company pension.
                        If you scrap the reduced prices for OAPs at Dens Park then the home attendances will plummet as Dundee Football Club has an aged support with a lot of supporters especially amongst the season ticket holders who are OAPs. If you do not believe me then take a look in the Main Stand at the next home game outwith the home games against Rangers and Celtic which will be on Saturday 29th November 2025 against St Mirren.
                        AA or SAD can be given to multi millionaires, it hasn't anything to do with company pension schemes.

                        And I think if you swap round the discount we will get more younger fans.

                        All things being equal I'd rather have more young fans in the ground even if attendances dropped for a bit.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Returnofrros View Post
                          AA or SAD can be given to multi millionaires, it hasn't anything to do with company pension schemes.

                          And I think if you swap round the discount we will get more younger fans.

                          All things being equal I'd rather have more young fans in the ground even if attendances dropped for a bit.
                          The boring defensive tactics being employed by Steven Pressley will result in non season ticket holders giving Dundee FC home games a miss as they are not prepared to spend their money purchasing a ticket for a home game.
                          Where are you going to get these young supporters when the management of Dundee Football Club cannot resurrect the Junior Dark Blues.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by islaydarkblue View Post
                            The boring defensive tactics being employed by Steven Pressley will result in non season ticket holders giving Dundee FC home games a miss as they are not prepared to spend their money purchasing a ticket for a home game.
                            Where are you going to get these young supporters when the management of Dundee Football Club cannot resurrect the Junior Dark Blues.
                            Hopefully, someone will see how the success of the Youth system could be more helpful in bringing youngsters into Dens.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Returnofrros View Post
                              AA or SAD can be given to multi millionaires, it hasn't anything to do with company pension schemes.

                              And I think if you swap round the discount we will get more younger fans.

                              All things being equal I'd rather have more young fans in the ground even if attendances dropped for a bit.
                              What are AA and SAD?

                              Asking for a friend.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Deeranged View Post
                                What are AA and SAD?

                                Asking for a friend.
                                Attendance Allowance, Scottish Adult Disability.

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