D4 life objectives

[Returnofrros]

1. Grow the fan base

2. Represent fans views.

3. To support the clubs development.

Fail, fail, fail.

[Deeranged]

They've never lifted a finger to grow any fan base

They've never represented the fans by gathering views and passing them to the club - quite the opposite in fact

The club's never developed so how can they support that development? They've never tried since Nelmsy told them to beat it either

Agree - fail, fail and fail

[jdfc]

To wear pink hi viz and sort out half time penalty shootout

[Returnofrros]

More is lost through indecision than the wrong decision.

If only they held his 🐾 to the 🔥

[eric_sinclair]

1. Grow the fan base

2. Represent fans views.

3. To support the clubs development.

Fail, fail, fail.

You and jdfc should get involved.
Love the club,wudna care about a blazer.
Plenty to say and would no doubt communicate.

I know one guy who was involved,good see Fae years ago but no idea if still doing it.

[jdfc]

You and jdfc should get involved.
Love the club,wudna care about a blazer.
Plenty to say and would no doubt communicate.

I know one guy who was involved,good see Fae years ago but no idea if still doing it.

Wouldn?t go near it, you need a good business brain, to start with, there were good people involved but then Dee4life was infiltrated by folk like Islay and others who thought it was some kind of badge of honour to wear the hi viz or claim to be committee

[eric_sinclair]

Wouldn?t go near it, you need a good business brain, to start with, there were good people involved but then Dee4life was infiltrated by folk like Islay and others who thought it was some kind of badge of honour to wear the hi viz or claim to be committee

You are right BUT you need fowk we the club at heart,the more the merrier.
Sunshine can do the books(got plenty time)
I've no doubt we have capable people available.
The only issue and it's major is can dens be upgraded and at what cost!!

[Returnofrros]

Far far far more capable folk than me....but a few of them have had their fingers burned

For me the main issue is Nelms.

I think D4L should be putting all manor of pressure on him to get him to recognise them, communicate with them and get their place on the board.

I would be wanting to know now ( 5 years ago actually ) FPS intentions if stadium "dream" falls apart.....so that D4L can try and prepare for that if it came to pass.

I would also be wanting to know how long we have to sit in a tip while we wait for the stadium......at what time do FPS say enough.....we can't wait any longer

The support now has to be brought back onside......not galvanised we haven't really got a leader ( Elvis or Nelms ) to do that, nobody is going to swallow that ......but we have to stop the rot of folk going from season tic holders.....to never going back, from current season tic holder to just not going at all.

Auld ane this but id be going all out to try and get home end swapped around, instead of just accepting a no.....if there has ever been a no from the police......it wud make such a difference to the atmosphere inside Dens.....Dabs changed it no problem......the current set up is the worst possible way we can set up our support inside the ground.......having huge away supports at the shankly end in the 2nd half (we seem to lose toss every week) is such a big advantage to give away.....it's criminal really.

The club and team needs re*****ised.....and very quickly.....or it's palliative care.

[islaydarkblue]

Far far far more capable folk than me....but a few of them have had their fingers burned

For me the main issue is Nelms.

I think D4L should be putting all manor of pressure on him to get him to recognise them, communicate with them and get their place on the board.

I would be wanting to know now ( 5 years ago actually ) FPS intentions if stadium "dream" falls apart.....so that D4L can try and prepare for that if it came to pass.

I would also be wanting to know how long we have to sit in a tip while we wait for the stadium......at what time do FPS say enough.....we can't wait any longer

The support now has to be brought back onside......not galvanised we haven't really got a leader ( Elvis or Nelms ) to do that, nobody is going to swallow that ......but we have to stop the rot of folk going from season tic holders.....to never going back, from current season tic holder to just not going at all.

Auld ane this but id be going all out to try and get home end swapped around, instead of just accepting a no.....if there has ever been a no from the police......it wud make such a difference to the atmosphere inside Dens.....Dabs changed it no problem......the current set up is the worst possible way we can set up our support inside the ground.......having huge away supports at the shankly end in the 2nd half (we seem to lose toss every week) is such a big advantage to give away.....it's criminal really.

The club and team needs re*****ised.....and very quickly.....or it's palliative care.

You have hit the nail on the head.
Nelms will not speak to former owners of Dundee Football Club.
Nelms also operates ‘divide and rule’ tactics.
In my opinion the DSA should never have left Dee4life as it played into Nelms’s hands.
We do not have enough Dundee FC supporters to have all these different splinter groups.
There should only be one Dundee FC supporters group called the Dundee supporters group which deals directly with Tim Keyes and bypasses John Nelms.
Doing nothing is not an option otherwise we will end up doing a ‘Brechin City’ with Nelms still banging on about his new stadium development at the former NCR Camperdown playing fields.
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[islaydarkblue]

Wouldn?t go near it, you need a good business brain, to start with, there were good people involved but then Dee4life was infiltrated by folk like Islay and others who thought it was some kind of badge of honour to wear the hi viz or claim to be committee

For the record I only volunteered to become a Dee4life director after Ian Baird resigned to avoid an extraordinary general meeting having to be called as Dee4life had an insufficient number of directors per their rules.
I had been happy being an official Dee4life volunteer for over two and a half years, attending Dee4life board of directors meetings as a non voting guest and not getting abuse on the Dark Blues Forum from keyboard warriors.

[jdfc]

You have hit the nail on the head.
Nelms will not speak to former owners of Dundee Football Club.
Nelms also operates ‘divide and rule’ tactics.
In my opinion the DSA should never have left Dee4life as it played into Nelms’s hands.
We do not have enough Dundee FC supporters to have all these different splinter groups.
There should only be one Dundee FC supporters group called the Dundee supporters group which deals directly with Tim Keyes and bypasses John Nelms.
Doing nothing is not an option otherwise we will end up doing a ‘Brechin City’ with Nelms still banging on about his new stadium development at the former NCR Camperdown playing fields.
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DSA were around before Dee4life but you were probably playing golf

Bypass Nelms and go direct to Keyes, how do you suggest going about that

[islaydarkblue]

DSA were around before Dee4life but you were probably playing golf

Bypass Nelms and go direct to Keyes, how do you suggest going about that

Dee4life was formed in January 2004 as a result of Admin 1.
A couple of months ago during another crisis in the League Cup group stage Tim Keyes contact email address was posted in a topic on the Dark Blues Forum.

[islaydarkblue]

They've never lifted a finger to grow any fan base

They've never represented the fans by gathering views and passing them to the club - quite the opposite in fact

The club's never developed so how can they support that development? They've never tried since Nelmsy told them to beat it either

Agree - fail, fail and fail

As a former Dee4life director and the Dee4life Primary representative on the Dundee Football Club Limited board of directors I am very surprised that you slag off Dee4life.

[islaydarkblue]

To wear pink hi viz and sort out half time penalty shootout

Instead of making fun of Dee4life Directors I suggest that you join Dee4life and put your name forward to be elected as a Dee4life director.
The Dee4life AGM is due to be held by the end of November 2025.
I would propose you to become a Dee4life director and I am sure that BCram would second you.
Then you find all the problems such the DSA committee members not having a meeting with the Dee4life board of directors because the ?Football Club? did not like what was written in the Dee4life August newsletter.

[Deeranged]

As a former Dee4life director and the Dee4life Primary representative on the Dundee Football Club Limited board of directors I am very surprised that you slag off Dee4life.

Why? What have they done for the members over the last five years?