Jewish away fans

[eric_sinclair]

Hamas appeared very quickly with all their armoury maybe they were hiding in the hospitals and schools using the public as human shields, the same people who were out cheering the slaughter of their own people a day after the ceasefire

Hamas are scum there is no argument here,but... Israel have targeted hospitals and also a know journalist was killed for just reporting what was going on there.They also killed 3 british aid workers,one who was ex forces who had done tours of afghanastan.Why not just targeted those responsible rather than hospitals and aide workers?

[Deeranged]

They have played in the competition for years

That's fair enough and is a reason trotted out regularly to justify them being in European competition.

But I'll counter by pointing out that Josef Fritzl held his daughter Elisabeth in captivity for 24 years after luring her into the basement of their home. Was Josef Fritzl right to keep Elisabeth captive for that time just because he decided to lock her up one day? Should he maybe have decided against that initial action?

Should UEFA maybe never have allowed Israel to masquerade as a European nation in the first place?

[Deeranged]

Hamas, without a doubt, stored weapons in hospitals and schools and used patients, doctors, teachers and school children as human shields - scum.

Hamas hijacked most of the aid shipped into Gaza by Israel during the conflict (something Israel had no obligation to do), kept what they needed and sold the rest to the people od Gaza - scum.

There was no genocide, this is evidenced by the fact that the population of Gaza is reported to be higher now than in 2023.

Israel was well within its rights to exact some revenge on Hamas after they invaded the country on 7th October 2023.

Women, children and other civilians are victims of war, that's unfortunate but unavoidable. Israel tried to negotiate but couldn't get Hamas to agree to withdraw their kay target of eliminating all Jews - scum.

Im not Jewish, I just look past the propaganda.

[eric_sinclair]

Hamas, without a doubt, stored weapons in hospitals and schools and used patients, doctors, teachers and school children as human shields - scum.

Hamas hijacked most of the aid shipped into Gaza by Israel during the conflict (something Israel had no obligation to do), kept what they needed and sold the rest to the people od Gaza - scum.

There was no genocide, this is evidenced by the fact that the population of Gaza is reported to be higher now than in 2023.

Israel was well within its rights to exact some revenge on Hamas after they invaded the country on 7th October 2023.

Women, children and other civilians are victims of war, that's unfortunate but unavoidable. Israel tried to negotiate but couldn't get Hamas to agree to withdraw their kay target of eliminating all Jews - scum.

Im not Jewish, I just look past the propaganda.

Depends on who you believe or want to believe,who do you believe?
Plenty think Israel have broken international law,including people in Israel and human rights orginisations.I would rek they probably have a wee bit more knowledge and info on the past atrocities.

[The AuldYin]

Hardly surprising from a Labour run Birmingham council. The local MP is Ayoub Khan A Hamas supporter who has already been forced to take anti semetic training and described the grooming gangs episodes as "a right wing narrative" The Police should never be allowed to pick and choose who they choose to protect.

[eric_sinclair]

80 odd percent Jewish.

Hamas are scum, Islamists are scum, the leftist scum that support either are also scum, the Palestinians that battered and abused dead bodies and the living are scumbags, those that celebrated the synagogue killings are scum, those that want Israel wiped off the map are scum, the independent Islamist MPs are scum.

The list is pretty much endless.

No wanting to go back and forth,we both dont agree but here are pretty much my thoughts summed up by a man I think you admire or did at some point,he makes sense to me.

https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-scottish-mail-on-sunday/20250727/281973203702989?srsltid=AfmBOoqkGaeUXXr3EO8BcGNef0I6gU58eb5C-GhSL81tWFP6fVnR9ouZ

[Deeranged]

Depends on who you believe or want to believe,who do you believe?
Plenty think Israel have broken international law,including people in Israel and human rights orginisations.I would rek they probably have a wee bit more knowledge and info on the past atrocities.

I believe what I see and look past what I can clearly see to be propaganda. Call me old fashioned but I believe nothing that any terrorist organisation, with a declared aim of wiping a nation from the Earth, tells me.

I'm absolutely certain that Israel will be guilty of war crimes because during times of war every side does it but at this time, although there's plenty fingers being pointed, I haven't seen any hard evidence. The evidence will come to light at some point no doubt and when it does I hope those responsible, including those in other countries, are brought to book. But they won't be.

It was a war situation but if you look at the amount of damage that has been done to to Gaza City it does look excessive - however what we're seeing coming out of there is still being controlled by Hamas who are terrorists and simply cannot be believed. The same people that released film of wrapped bodies that were able to move arms and were gasping for breath and of supposedly starving children who were in fact disabled with genetic muscle wasting conditions.

Hamas are scum, Israel not much better but at least they had a valid reason for attacking.

[eric_sinclair]

I believe what I see and look past what I can clearly see to be propaganda. Call me old fashioned but I believe nothing that any terrorist organisation, with a declared aim of wiping a nation from the Earth, tells me.

I'm absolutely certain that Israel will be guilty of war crimes because during times of war every side does it but at this time, although there's plenty fingers being pointed, I haven't seen any hard evidence. The evidence will come to light at some point no doubt and when it does I hope those responsible, including those in other countries, are brought to book. But they won't be.

It was a war situation but if you look at the amount of damage that has been done to to Gaza City it does look excessive - however what we're seeing coming out of there is still being controlled by Hamas who are terrorists and simply cannot be believed. The same people that released film of wrapped bodies that were able to move arms and were gasping for breath and of supposedly starving children who were in fact disabled with genetic muscle wasting conditions.

Hamas are scum, Israel not much better but at least they had a valid reason for attacking.

It took a a while but I agree we your last statement.

[jdfc]

Hamas are scum there is no argument here,but... Israel have targeted hospitals and also a know journalist was killed for just reporting what was going on there.They also killed 3 british aid workers,one who was ex forces who had done tours of afghanastan.Why not just targeted those responsible rather than hospitals and aide workers?

Unfortunately in war, every war, there are innocent victims, but just remember these same people, young and old danced in the streets when they brought the hostages through the streets,

[noahrab]

It's a European tournament and Israel isn't in Europe so really they shouldn't be in European tournament although I doubt they'd be wecome in Middle Eastern or African tournaments due to rife anti semitism in those regions. Mind you, with the ongoing invasion of Europe I'm not sure how much longer they'll be welcome in European tournament.

They must be in Europe.

They?re in the Eurovision Song Contest?

[BCram]

I will be surprised if they are in the next one, unless Gaza is allowed to enter.

[The AuldYin]

Our very own Humza Yousaf now calling for Israeli teams to be banned from playing football, so now they want to pick who's allowed to play AND who gets to attend. He's not mentioned anything else Jews do on the world stage just the football so far. I hope no one's bought tickets for the upcoming Bob Dylan tour.

[Deeranged]

Our very own Humza Yousaf now calling for Israeli teams to be banned from playing football, so now they want to pick who's allowed to play AND who gets to attend. He's not mentioned anything else Jews do on the world stage just the football so far. I hope no one's bought tickets for the upcoming Bob Dylan tour.

He's a Muslim, deep down he wants all Jews banned from the planet.

[BCram]

My understanding of the Crusades was that eventually the Christians and the Muslims agreed that The Med would be the boundary and the Holy land and surrounding areas South of the Med would be broadly Muslim and North of the Med would be broadly Christian.
, Saladin signed a peace treaty with the Christian armies, specifically the Treaty of Jaffa in 1192, with Richard I of England. This treaty ended the Third Crusade and established a three-year truce. It allowed unarmed Christian pilgrims access to Jerusalem while leaving the city under Muslim control, and granted Christian forces control of the coast from Tyre to Jaffa.
Date: September 2, 1192
Parties: Saladin and Richard I (the Lionheart)
Key Terms:
Truce: A three-year truce was established.
Jerusalem: Remained under Muslim control, but unarmed Christian pilgrims were granted free passage to visit the holy sites.
Territory: Christian forces held the coastal strip from Tyre to Jaffa.
Ascalon: Its fortifications were to be demolished, and the town returned to Saladin.
Significance: The treaty ended the Third Crusade, though it did not fully achieve the Christian goal of retaking Jerusalem. It allowed for a period of peace and granted access to the holy city for Christian pilgrims.

[davydook]

He's a Muslim, deep down he wants all Jews banned from the planet.

He's a fu**ing pr*ck that's what he is.