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  • #46
    Originally posted by Whitfieldarab View Post
    Think you're being a bit harsh on us tonight Stokey. Killie away is usually a fkn nightmare for us but i thought we were slightly the better team. They usually bully us but they didn't. The referee/VAR helped them out big time with the penalty.

    We were much improved on the last away game there in the cup and much improved on last Saturday v Bairns so im not getting too despondent about tonight.
    Harsh? Maybe. But to me the team doesn't look coached.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Stoke_Arab View Post
      We can focus on a couple of shocking decisions from that cheating referee, which would be 100% understandable, but we need to also accept how poor we were overall across the 90 minutes.

      With the quality of players at his disposal our manager needs to be doing much much better.
      Just one example here, but in his pre match he was bigging up Watters but the guy brought nothing to our build up play and cohesion.
      He chose Strain at RB, an absolute stinking performance from him.
      Ferry and Keresztes look like there's a punch up coming. Keresztes and Iovu for such big guys look feart.

      And two commentators on Premier can't even get our keepers name right, very poor from them.
      Scottish football results are not decided by who is the better team on the day but by the incompetence of the referee and the VAR official. McDermid is by far and away the worst of those refs. I very much doubt he would be any better doing a boys game.

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      • #48
        That's what I see bud. A decent team that isn't coached properly. So so frustrating.

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        • #49
          Kettlebellend making a big deal over the rightly disallowed 'goal' not so much the f*cking ridiculous penalty award though? I wonder if managers ever listen to themselves back later and think " yeah I made a c*nt of myself there a little bit!"

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          • #50
            I just watched the highlights. I was limited to live radio coverage today as I don't have Premier Sports.
            I thought Watters played pretty well from what i could see (albeit in 6 minutes of TV highlights. His penalty is decent and its a good save. The holdup play around the box and his contribution for the goal.

            I thought their penalty was well soft and our keeper is really unlucky not to get . He could be a more safe pair of hands.

            Graham eased back into action and I'm disappointed that we didn't play hm alongside Sam C.H. I'd love to see this duo play together. They've played together for years. Sam is due a chance.

            When was the last clean sheet we had? and its Mr Sibbald our top scorer?

            Bring on the huns. We play better against the big teams and the huns are playing pish, just jamming the results.

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            • #51
              Our passing is honking. Was it Ferry that took the free kick and passed it directly to a Killie player..no where near our own player.
              I think our tactics are poor and predictable.
              We have gone back to a team that looks like we will never manage to score more than 1 goal in a game. What I would give to comfortably win at least one game!

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              • #52
                Originally posted by weegiearab View Post
                Our passing is honking. Was it Ferry that took the free kick and passed it directly to a Killie player..no where near our own player.
                I think our tactics are poor and predictable.
                We have gone back to a team that looks like we will never manage to score more than 1 goal in a game. What I would give to comfortably win at least one game!
                Sheep and the fun must be absolutely shyte as they never managed to lay a glove on us, yet everyone else can.

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                • #53
                  That was two poor sides tonight, thought we had control of most the second half, but with that defence you feel the opposition has every chance of nicking a win, and I don't think we looked convincing at all at the back. Hard to judge the keeper, didn't have much to do, unlucky at the pen, few routine saves, but I thought he was weak and unconvincing at the disallowed goal. When we did get some creativity on with Dolcek and Fatah the last 15, most the service they got was balls shelled up to them. Killie are stinking, they've won 2 games in the league all season, one of them was against us. Losing the first goal in 8 games in a row is a relegation stat.

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                  • #54
                    Only positive is it wasnt a humping.

                    Performance from 11 strangers on the park was dismal, the changing of personnel and tactics was seamless as it never happened.

                    The quality of this squad should be taking results however i think they are being over educated and confused in training. Noone knew what or where they should be.

                    Too many honking individual performances alo

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                    • #55
                      Was away so only back in time to see highlights last night.

                      Brief as it was, Keresztes i thought was on the way down for his pen so how the ref missed that excuse to deny, i will never know. I saw one clip of our defence being marshalled by Graham and keeping a good shape, so willing to give them time. And a knackered Watters skinning 2 guys in midfield to keep Sibbalds move going.

                      Hope this is a good base to build on again.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by JUSTaway View Post
                        That was two poor sides tonight, thought we had control of most the second half, but with that defence you feel the opposition has every chance of nicking a win, and I don't think we looked convincing at all at the back. Hard to judge the keeper, didn't have much to do, unlucky at the pen, few routine saves, but I thought he was weak and unconvincing at the disallowed goal. When we did get some creativity on with Dolcek and Fatah the last 15, most the service they got was balls shelled up to them. Killie are stinking, they've won 2 games in the league all season, one of them was against us. Losing the first goal in 8 games in a row is a relegation stat.
                        And that's where we're heading, a relegation battle, make no mistake.
                        We have Ferry fighting with Keresztes, what does that tell you about the dressing room.
                        We have no warriors.
                        We do have Pan Camara however and that's the only hope I can hang onto.

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                        • #57
                          Strange but it was noted that on the Killie pen (soft as) the tw-at in black went round the entire box and circle particularly warning United defenders to stay out of the box until the kick taken. it was like he was creating the grounds for a retake which could have been.

                          The quality and sanity of these idiots has to be addressed now

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                          • #58
                            Take the point and move on form a ground that is not fit for purpose at this level .

                            A big positive was getting Graham & Watters back .

                            I thought their penalty was of the softest variety but can also see why it was given .

                            Important that we start picking up some wins now though , drawing matches is all very well but 2 wins in our last 10 SPL games is simply nowhere near good enough given the calibre of squad we have at our disposal .
                            At the beginning of this season Jim was saying this group of players could better last seasons league position but on what I'm seeing we will do well to get anywhere near the top 6 and if we are not careful may well be dragged in to a battle down near the bottom half of the table.
                            We've nothing to fear against what is a fairly average Rangers team so hopefully we can go out and get back to winning ways on Wednesday .

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