Domination last two games

[shedka]

It HAS clearly proved f*ck all, 2 games out of 31 is supposed to be proof? Aye right. You want to bring up last season,how about our relegation season? You still can't hold your hand up and admit that you spouted shyte all the way through that campaign and continually devalued everyone else's opinion.
And by multiple boards I assume you mean 2, there's that number again? At least you dont find me loitering on the neighbours board trolling away like the sad little man you are, w*nking yourself stupid over percentages, crowd figures and whatever the f*ck else gets you off.

Mug

Check the nick of you, mug

Troll on rival board aye? Never have posted on a funster forum, unless when both boards were done sporadic reply, weird thing to make up when discussing Utds current system, why would you need to do that, incapable of debating the topic?

Getting all wound up too, you'd start an argument in an empty room tbf

You aren't even making any sense, all over the place

Anyway

Two games yes but they were dominant in attack and defence and we saw it earlier in season

It clearly has proven that 3-4-3 can work with the right personnel, I went into the derby thinking we have to go 3-5-2 if playing 3 at the back, to have the extra man in the middle but no I was proven wrong as were many others, just need the right line up, Agyei and Sevelj with Luca and Ferry either side and the work rate of Fatah and Farrugia with the back three Iovu RG KK works, even having lazy looking Watters up there we've done fine

Last season, yes of course, 3 at the back worked, mainly 3-5-2 with more limited group but more solid, we were fine for most part, only tended to go 4 at back against the old firm but we have a better record against the old firm this year with 3 at the back (2 wins 2 draws 1 loss)

Relegation season, you have brought that up a couple times and I've not engaged as would only make you look silly again but in what way was I wrong about that season and you right? I know we had a top 5 record from October to January over a 15 game period that got us get out of the top two under Fox (when we were without a win going into October and bereft of confidence) of all people, until some rotten luck late January followed by releghitti getting tackled into his own net by may in February in a game we likely would have went onto win, changing manager didn't save us anymore than sticking with Fox would have

However we have the right man at the helm right now on the back of it to bring stability back, something that you would like to tear up for some reason, not a reason worth the risk the risk that's for sure

I await your next sweaty angry post of unrelated keech

[shedka]

When I suggested we should be signing Alex Gogic he laughed and said Calum Butcher was a far better player.

That's why I don't really bother with him.

Butcher at his best for Utd is way better in midfield than Gogic, Butcher was class for us at the time

As a centre back, you'd have to say Gogic is better

Not like you to be offended because someone doesn't agree with you, and you do tend to go with sack manager as a default so you will be more in ads side point of view, if it's not Clarke at Scotland (maybe our best manager ever) it's Goodwin, infact since you carry up old stuff you wanted Houston out too let's not forget and maybe Levein as well when we ended his first full season with 3 defeats and started the next season with no wins in the first few games

Here's one for you, Sevelj is better than Camara, I've thought it all season

[Arabdownsouth]

Check the nick of you, mug

Troll on rival board aye? Never have posted on a funster forum, unless when both boards were done sporadic reply, weird thing to make up when discussing Utds current system, why would you need to do that, incapable of debating the topic?

Getting all wound up too, you'd start an argument in an empty room tbf

You aren't even making any sense, all over the place

Anyway

Two games yes but they were dominant in attack and defence and we saw it earlier in season

It clearly has proven that 3-4-3 can work with the right personnel, I went into the derby thinking we have to go 3-5-2 if playing 3 at the back, to have the extra man in the middle but no I was proven wrong as were many others, just need the right line up, Agyei and Sevelj with Luca and Ferry either side and the work rate of Fatah and Farrugia with the back three Iovu RG KK works, even having lazy looking Watters up there we've done fine

Last season, yes of course, 3 at the back worked, mainly 3-5-2 with more limited group but more solid, we were fine for most part, only tended to go 4 at back against the old firm but we have a better record against the old firm this year with 3 at the back (2 wins 2 draws 1 loss)

Relegation season, you have brought that up a couple times and I've not engaged as would only make you look silly again but in what way was I wrong about that season and you right? I know we had a top 5 record from October to January over a 15 game period that got us get out of the top two under Fox (when we were without a win going into October and bereft of confidence) of all people, until some rotten luck late January followed by releghitti getting tackled into his own net by may in February in a game we likely would have went onto win, changing manager didn't save us anymore than sticking with Fox would have

However we have the right man at the helm right now on the back of it to bring stability back, something that you would like to tear up for some reason, not a reason worth the risk the risk that's for sure

I await your next sweaty angry post of unrelated keech

Far too much garbled pish to waste any time going through it. Lost you after your illiterate first sentence.

[shedka]

Far too much garbled pish to waste any time going through it. Lost you after your illiterate first sentence.

Yes, of course that's what it was, we believe ya 😂😂

[Arabdownsouth]

Yes, of course that's what it was, we believe ya 😂😂

Look at him thinking he's a we bless him 🤗

[shedka]

Look at him thinking he's a we bless him 🤗

We or I you still weren't up for debating the topic of the system and went off on tangents yet here you are still replying about unrelated keech to avoid it

Anyway enjoy your weekend 😄

[Stoke_Arab]

When exactly was Calum Butcher at his best? Which game? Calum Butcher couldn't lace Gogic's boots at centre back or centre mid.

And he left the club in disgrace after completely disrupting the dressing room after sh****g an overseas players girlfriend. Unforgivable behaviour from a journeyman player.

Alex Gogic on the other hand has been outstanding for St Mirren in virtually every game he plays.

No clue.

[weegiearab]

To be fair, Benji got an upgrade with his new Mrs!

[moicher]

It HAS clearly proved f*ck all, 2 games out of 31 is supposed to be proof? Aye right. You want to bring up last season,how about our relegation season? You still can't hold your hand up and admit that you spouted shyte all the way through that campaign and continually devalued everyone else's opinion.
And by multiple boards I assume you mean 2, there's that number again? At least you dont find me loitering on the neighbours board trolling away like the sad little man you are, w*nking yourself stupid over percentages, crowd figures and whatever the f*ck else gets you off.

Mug

no need for that at all. You can't start attacking another poster like that. Crossing the line there.

[moicher]

Look at him thinking he's a we bless him 🤗

actually he is. You spout some guff most of the time (its allowed, its a messageboard), but you are downright abusive to people giving their honest opinion. Bam.

[Arabdownsouth]

actually he is. You spout some guff most of the time (its allowed, its a messageboard), but you are downright abusive to people giving their honest opinion. Bam.

You do know he devalues other posters opinions all the time right?
Not really fussed what you make of my opinion tbf 👍

[bannon_ftd_83]

Gogic is a ****ing bombscare every time we play St Mirren i love it.

[A. J]

Lets be honest its taken Jim until 3 games before the split to finally put the correct players on the park. Ones that suits his preferred formation and tactics and it manages to last almost the whole game (still cant believe the derby meltdown)
That is far too long and justifies the comments from those who have posted in a frustrated manner, this includes my own.

As for the record against the bigger teams, these teams come at us and we can counter and pick them off l, which suits Jim.
We dont seem to be able to unlock the lesser teams thus we struggle, in fact we get picked off.
Ogren annoys me as he hasnt loosened the pursestrings to buy permanent creative players to breakdown the lesser teams and that is equally frustrating.
We will lose some solid players at end of season and face yet another rebuild.

Hopefully Jim gets permanent players in that will alow him to set up as per previous games and sets us up for more than one season, but that relies on Ogren.
Fingers crossed.

[moicher]

You do know he devalues other posters opinions all the time right?
Not really fussed what you make of my opinion tbf 👍

Devaluing is just fine, that's what reasonable debate is about. You refute the argument or the other through logical debate, your superior logic can then devalue the argument the other has put forth.

It is personal abusive that's crossed the line "like the sad little man you are, w*nking yourself stupid over percentages, crowd figures and whatever the f*ck else gets you off".

I dont think that that is OK. I think the the mods should be getting you telt for behaviour like that.

I think you should man up and offer an apology or take your vitriol elsewhere.

I dont care whether you care about my opinion or not but its posts like yours that will put off posters coming and staying on forums. Thankfully Shedka seems to have a thick skin but others might not and I think having more posters on this forum rather than your abusive personal attacking posts would be my preferred option and probably a lot of others.

Personally I rather enjoy seeing a spectrum of opinion whether i agree with it or not. It would be very boring otherwise.

[JUSTaway]

Wow, my eyesight must be going or I must have some sort of PTS from our championship days, read the title of this thread as - Dumbarton last two games. Certainly didn't expect to then be reading a debate about the merits of Butchers and Gogic, that's the international break for you I suppose.