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  • #16
    Atleast after all the over the top outcry from pundits I feel better that they majority agreed both were penalties, both were pens for me, in real time the Moult one was a stick on and on var review the first was a stick on pen

    Fair enough the Moult one could have been a red but it's not like it decided the game in the end, we played the rest of the game 11v11 and won fair and square, deserved it with the better chances created and the excellent defensive display

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    • #17
      Walton's was a bricker of a red card and Fraser red card was very harsh.
      Both pens were soft imo but the first one the numpty pundits were suggesting it could be a foul against Holt, which I found ludicrous and really showed their bias.
      Just found the whole uproar hilarious and entertaining, especially after an infinitely more shocking call (Main) was swept under the carpet as per.
      F*ck them all

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      • #18
        How the F*** was that a penalty. Minimal contact goes doon like a ton of bricks...f***ing west coast w@nkst@ins

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        • #19
          I haven't seen it again yet, just at the game. I was in the opposite end so a trucker view of it but I thought it'd be given. 🤔

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          • #20
            Regardless of whether decisions benefit us or don?t in any given week, the net result of VAR is not a better sport to watch or even a fairer one, it?s a game ruled, and slowed down by millimetre level decisions made by over-officiating.

            Give the referee the decision in the moment, respect the decisions (right or wrong) and get on with the bloody game.

            Nothing to do with today?s result, just VAR in general.

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            • #21
              Having watched the incident again now it was always going to be given, almost the same as Holt last week. The annoying thing is it was an unnecessary challenge made by a player with very few minutes on the park this season.

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              • #22
                "Dundee United have held talks with referees chief Willie Collum over fears that the SFA's weekly Key Match Incident (KMI) panel could be negatively impacting officials, Courier Sport has learned.

                Senior Tannadice figures remain incredulous that Danny Armstrongs high, studs-up follow-through on Vicko Sevelj who reported to training this week with a visible cut to his leg
                was not referred to the VAR monitor.

                The wider concern, expressed to Collum on Monday, is whether the results of the prior KMI panel which declared TWO decisions from United's victory over St Mirren to be erroneous placed undue pressure on VAR Alan Muir."

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                • #23
                  Not fit for purpose in Scottish football, bin it!
                  SFA= West coast centric, anti-DUFC, incompetent, corrupt shower of d1cks you can possibly imagine.
                  Shouldn't be anywhere near running our game, never mind VAR.
                  Sorry for the rant folks but they really take the piss!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Sutherland Arab View Post
                    Not fit for purpose in Scottish football, bin it!
                    SFA= West coast centric, anti-DUFC, incompetent, corrupt shower of d1cks you can possibly imagine.
                    Shouldn't be anywhere near running our game, never mind VAR.
                    Sorry for the rant folks but they really take the piss!
                    Hate VAR with a vengeance but they done us a favour yesterday by not giving Well a clear penalty for the Stephenson foul at 4-2 down.

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                    • #25
                      Thought they might have asked the ref to look at a pretty obvious handball that did influence one of their goals. The ball would have carried on instead of dying in a dangerous area to an attacking player.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Yeats 62 View Post
                        Thought they might have asked the ref to look at a pretty obvious handball that did influence one of their goals. The ball would have carried on instead of dying in a dangerous area to an attacking player.
                        It wasn’t a Hand ball though , the rule is if it hits a player above the sleeve line then it’s not a hand ball , and have a look at your profile picture and it definitely hit him above the sleeve line ,if they show it on ref watch on Monday morning then Dermot Gallagher will explain the rule again

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Dode craigie View Post
                          It wasn?t a Hand ball though , the rule is if it hits a player above the sleeve line then it?s not a hand ball , and have a look at your profile picture and it definitely hit him above the sleeve line ,if they show it on ref watch on Monday morning then Dermot Gallagher will explain the rule again
                          Fair point, my mistake. I'm just used to saying "hand ball".

                          Still think it hit his arm below the sleeve line, but it's hard to tell these days with the coloured under-armour on. Considering it ended up a goal, might have been worth another look.

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                          • #28
                            PS: Those sleeve lengths are from 1962. Wee bit higher up in 2024

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                            • #29
                              You'll never believe this guys. The Sportscene pundits didn't think the tackle on Moult was a pen. It's the same every week with them 😄
                              If we concede one, it's definitely a pen, if we get one, never a pen.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Stoke_Arab View Post
                                You'll never believe this guys. The Sportscene pundits didn't think the tackle on Moult was a pen. It's the same every week with them 😄
                                If we concede one, it's definitely a pen, if we get one, never a pen.
                                It?s great that VAR has made the controversial decisions much clearer and removed the bias.

                                It makes not being able to properly celebrate a goal all worth it.

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