Arrogant

[norfolk white]

Arrogant arsenal got shocked tonight, they think they have a god given right to win, then got nasty at the end like the spoilt little brats they are when they don?t get their own way, I hope they blow it again. Arteta is so up his own backside.

[WTF11]

Arrogant arsenal got shocked tonight, they think they have a god given right to win, then got nasty at the end like the spoilt little brats they are when they don?t get their own way, I hope they blow it again. Arteta is so up his own backside.

Errrr.....where do you get the "arrogance" tag?

They have a first class squad within which are some world class players and a manager who is consistently respectful of their achievement and equally importantly those of their opponents.

Would that the likes of Scumchester, Schitty, Chelski, etc etc could claim to similar "honourable" behaviour.

Frankly I'd prefer to focus on the Wolves performance, a parallel from where we were against Chelski but from a team doomed to relegation but who have never given up, played some scintillating football let down by poor finishing.

[spaldy]

The owner of this club is an extraordinarily vile piece of human flotsam.... even by crony capitalist standards.

The club reflects it. It would be most satisfying to see them choke like they have a tendency to do.

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The owner of this club is an extraordinarily vile piece of human flotsam.... even by crony capitalist standards.

The club reflects it. It would be most satisfying to see them choke like they have a tendency to do.

Again, how does the club "reflect " anything?

When Bates was LUFC owner, did the club reflect his less than transparent business dealings?

Kroenke is (reportedly) the largest private landowner in the US and is worth considerably more than the owners of LUFC. No green eyed devil here then?

[Orgoner]

If Arsenal decided to move the fixture up to get some easy points on the table, then it was a ploy that spectacularly backfired.

[Orgoner]

You have to be able to do it on a wet wintry Wednesday in Wolverhampton...

[spaldy]

Again, how does the club "reflect " anything?

When Bates was LUFC owner, did the club reflect his less than transparent business dealings?

Kroenke is (reportedly) the largest private landowner in the US and is worth considerably more than the owners of LUFC. No green eyed devil here then?

I don't recall Bates, GFH or Radz tryng to set up a "super league". Kroenke was the driver on this to make even more money. He sensed an opportunity as the FA and Fifa are corrupt to the core and he knows they can be bought. Many people have the resources and leverage to buy people and force concepts that are negative to the vast majority but don't do that. This vermin has no problem with that moral quandry.

And yes, the club in this case reflects the scum bag that owns them. Norfolk is spot on, This is an arrogant club that has outspent all but a couple of teams in world football and really has little or nothing to show for it.


PS- I'm not sure what being the largest landowner in the country has to do with anything other than he doesn't have to worry about the federal government confiscating his land like the average working person in the US does through eminent domain, national park declaration, enviromental or water right declaration. will never happen to him since he owns the politicians like he does everything else he does.

[Orgoner]

I don't particularly dislike Arsenal but...

Spurs. They wouldn't, would they?!

[WTF11]

I don't recall Bates, GFH or Radz tryng to set up a "super league". Kroenke was the driver on this to make even more money. He sensed an opportunity as the FA and Fifa are corrupt to the core and he knows they can be bought. Many people have the resources and leverage to buy people and force concepts that are negative to the vast majority but don't do that. This vermin has no problem with that moral quandry.

And yes, the club in this case reflects the scum bag that owns them. Norfolk is spot on, This is an arrogant club that has outspent all but a couple of teams in world football and really has little or nothing to show for it.


PS- I'm not sure what being the largest landowner in the country has to do with anything other than he doesn't have to worry about the federal government confiscating his land like the average working person in the US does through eminent domain, national park declaration, enviromental or water right declaration. will never happen to him since he owns the politicians like he does everything else he does.

At the time those owners you mention, including Bates, we "in place", there was no concept of a European Super League, given that Sky and all the other sports broadcasters weren't anywhere near as "on the scene as they are now. Had it been aired, you think Bates WOULDN'T have been interested, do me a favour.

And as for Kroenke being out to make money from the sports franchises/club he owns, errr.......would you care to refer to an owner that ISN'T interested in making money in such a fashion? Thing is, he is successful at it while the Glazers and that chap who heads INEOS seem a tad less capable.

Money goes to money, always has, always will, but where I differ from your view is in relation to the club, its manager and players. The manager is intelligent, articulate, humble when they lose, magnanimous when they win, and the team, no matter what the playing squad, play attractive, attacking football that is good to watch from the point of a view of a neutral (yes, I am!). Nothing "vile" or arrogant.

My comment about his land ownership was merely to point out that if he wanted to he could leave sports of all sorts behind and just relax, he hasn't, and the long term investments he has made across multiple sports have paid off (for both the team involved and Kreonke.

[spaldy]

I like to believe that many of the FA clubs do have owners that care about there supporters and the sport. Especially in the lower divisions. Candidly, I think that the 49's are much better than many of the prem owners. I've seen that over the years with the 49's as much as they can be benevolent.

Kroenke exhibits none of those traits ever. Any chance he gets to exert more power he does. Does the same with walmart. If you'd like a case study of his scum bag nature just look up St Louis football cardinals. It's one of his higher visibility screw jobs. Walmart also makes some interesting reading. of course, He had nothing to do with building that. Just slept with the right person to get his share of the company.

I'll grant you that the team inset has some good people. However, there are good people in every organization that are owned by wretched people.

[norfolk white]

Even though I?m obviously not an arsenal fan I still want them to beat spurs Saturday for Leeds benefit

[WTF11]

I like to believe that many of the FA clubs do have owners that care about there supporters and the sport. Especially in the lower divisions. Candidly, I think that the 49's are much better than many of the prem owners. I've seen that over the years with the 49's as much as they can be benevolent.

Kroenke exhibits none of those traits ever. Any chance he gets to exert more power he does. Does the same with walmart. If you'd like a case study of his scum bag nature just look up St Louis football cardinals. It's one of his higher visibility screw jobs. Walmart also makes some interesting reading. of course, He had nothing to do with building that. Just slept with the right person to get his share of the company.

I'll grant you that the team inset has some good people. However, there are good people in every organization that are owned by wretched people.

Aston Villa is owned by V Sports, a holding company jointly owned by Egyptian billionaire Nassef Sawiris and American billionaire Wes Edens.

AFC Bournemouth is owned by American businessman Bill Foley,

Matthew Benham is the owner of Premier League club Brentford, having taken full control in 2012 and overseen their rise from the third tier to the top flight. A former professional gambler and founder of Smartodds,

Brighton & Hove Albion FC is primarily owned and chaired by English businessman, poker player, and sports gambler Tony Bloom,

Burnley FC is owned by American investment firm ALK Capital through its sports investment arm, Velocity Sports Partners.

Chelsea FC is owned by the BlueCo consortium, led by Todd Boehly and Clearlake Capital,

As of July 2025, American businessman and New York Jets owner Woody Johnson became the largest shareholder of Crystal Palace

The Friedkin Group (TFG), led by American billionaire Dan Friedkin, is the owner of Everton FC

Shahid Khan is the owner and chairman of Fulham Football Club, having purchased the club from Mohamed Al Fayed in July 2013.

Liverpool Football Club is owned by Fenway Sports Group (FSG), an American sports investment company led by principal owner John
W. Henry.

Manchester City is primarily owned by Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan, a member of the Abu Dhabi royal family and Vice President of the UAE

In Feb 2024, following a sale to the head of Ineos, Jim Ratcliffe, The Glazer family, retained a majority stake in the club but Ratcliffe's Ineos Group took control of football operations.

Newcastle United is owned by an investment group composed of the Saudi Arabia Public Investment Fund (PIF) (holding 80% - 85%) and RB Sports & Media (holding 15% - 20%), which represents the Reuben Brothers.

Nottingham Forest is owned by Greek shipping magnate Evangelos Marinakis,

Kyril Louis-Dreyfus is the majority owner and chairman of Sunderland AFC, having taken control of the club in February 2021 **

Tottenham is owned by ENIC Group, which purchased the club in 2001.

West Ham United is primarily owned by David Sullivan (38.8%), Czech businessman Daniel Křet?*nský via 1890s holdings a.s (27%), and Vanessa Gold representing the25.1% stake of the late David Gold's family trust. American investor J. Albert "Tripp" Smith holds an 8% stake

Wolverhampton Wanderers FC is owned by the Chinese investment conglomerate Fosun International,

All the owners mentioned (groups or individuals) have invested in order to make money, one way or another, irrespective of the impact on the supporter groups. Pretending otherwise is both foolish and naieve.

You think that Kroenkes work with the LA Rams and the demise of the St Louis Cardinals is some kind of failure (sportswise or financially?) You really want to put that up as a “higher visibility screw job”? Taking the Rams back to Los Angeles where they belonged, instead of the f**k up that their previous owner, Georgia Frontiere and her heirs had overseen, prior to Kroenke acquiring the franchise, including the StLouis stadium being regarded by Sports Illustrated in 2008 as “the worst of any NFL stadium with particularly low marks for tailgating, affordability and atmosphere”, give me a break.

As for your comment about Kroenke and the benefit to his empire of the marriage to Ann, they have been married for 50 years, and as someone who was married for 44 year before cancer took my wife I regard your comment about “sleeping with the right person” truly disgusting and shameful.

[spaldy]

I find your hero worship of this guy rather fascinating. He epitomizes the excesses of American excesses of croney capitalism. Unlike Trump who is actually liked by many of his employees, Kroenke is loathed. No one shares any of his ?success?. It all goes to him

He is the architect of the dissolution of the old Walmart which was built By Sam and modeled on rural stores selling American made products while giving employees stock ownership. Many ended up very wealthy and spent there entire working career there.

Now it?s a horrific sweat shop selling cheap Chinese junk by employees working long hours making minimum wage hoping to make assstant nanagement and getting a few shares a year. His most brilliant exec move was to implement a program teaching employees how to file for food stamps and getting Medicaid from the government. Kroenke and his exec team skim all the profits that Sam used to share with associates.

The only reason the vermin is still married to his wife is because his pre nup stipulates he loses his share upon the divorce.

I am sorry for your loss.

[WTF11]

I find your hero worship of this guy rather fascinating. He epitomizes the excesses of American excesses of croney capitalism. Unlike Trump who is actually liked by many of his employees, Kroenke is loathed. No one shares any of his ?success?. It all goes to him

He is the architect of the dissolution of the old Walmart which was built By Sam and modeled on rural stores selling American made products while giving employees stock ownership. Many ended up very wealthy and spent there entire working career there.

Now it?s a horrific sweat shop selling cheap Chinese junk by employees working long hours making minimum wage hoping to make assstant nanagement and getting a few shares a year. His most brilliant exec move was to implement a program teaching employees how to file for food stamps and getting Medicaid from the government. Kroenke and his exec team skim all the profits that Sam used to share with associates.

The only reason the vermin is still married to his wife is because his pre nup stipulates he loses his share upon the divorce.

I am sorry for your loss.

I find your ability to dodge the issues you yourself raise to be pathetic.

I don't "hero worship" the man, I only know his name because of the original comment on this thread and having done some digging. He is no better or worse than ANY of the PL owners, including the 49-ers Enterprises. You seek to criticise him for being an arch capitalist, living in the country that breeds arch capitalists, and votes them into positions of power at every opportunity. What do you expect when the whole ethos of the USA is to climb to the top of the pile irrespective of who you trample underfoot?

I suggest you have a look at the fan pages of the LA Rams and his other US-based sports franchises and you will see a great deal of approval, FROM FANS Arsenal etc, and that approval is now being reflected in the attitude from previously sceptical Gooners, have a look if you don't believe me. And Trumps employees liking him, are you completely delusional. When the mid-terms come round just watch for his acolytes running for cover (and beginning their challenge for his place next time round). Vance and Rubio will fight like cats and dogs to replace him given the opportunity.

You think Walmart is any different to the rest of the WESTERN WORLDS retail landscape, underpaid workers being paid minimum wages to work long hours for the benefit of their lords and masters? Wake up! Bezos is good to those who work for Amazon, Zukkerberg is good for those who work for instagram, whatsapp etc developing algorithms to enslave the youth of today while enriching their lords and masters? Wake Up, You think Musk gives a sh1t about how hard the workers at Tesla or SpaceX etc have to work, as long as he get richer by the day? WAKE UP. All are either US citizens of have their main business centres in the US. YOU have voted for the structures that THEY exploit, no-one and nothing else. You want to see who is responsible for a system where the likes of Kroenke and others can do what they do? Look in the mirror.

Your observation on the reason he and Ann remain married is as shameful and uninformed as the previous one, there is no public information or specific details regarding a prenuptial agreement between Stan Kroenke and Ann Walton Kroenke.

I don't accept your expression of sympathy for my loss, and neither would my wife. You really should be ashamed of yourself.

[norfolk white]

It was never my intention to start a war of words, just the observation that when arsenal don?t get the results they want they kick off blaming all and sundry, I look at our humble manager who is gracious in defeat, I agree arsenal are a very good side but like mr Ferguson at Man Utd was they want it all their own way.