49-ets Enterprises coaching appointments

[WTF11]

Seems that the 49-ers Enterprises are as good at coaching appointments as they are with new players. Let's see how long Russell Martin lasts at Rangers after this evening!

[Monaco_Totty]

To again flag up this quote of analysis
our PSR from earlier this year was estimated to be between 15m & 20m under the allowed limits in the profit & sustainability rules, I recall.

So assuming contracts 'now' are 4/5 year deals then that allowed a circa of 75m-100m in transfers if amortised over the 5 year permitted period.
Excluding player outgoing deals that'll make profit & those additional funds from PL status, plus increased revenue such as advertising which now boosts our kitty gotta assume 49ers are nailed onto their track.
'Tho I honestly thought the ER naming issue should have been capitalised on.

To be fair any incoming player deals of 150k per week are far beyond what Leeds have in place with our 'strict salary cap' now, but Calvert-Lewin is defo the highest-paid player at the club, for sure presently strangely & we beat him down from his original salary demands too. 😳

Not yet clear what that'll mean financially exactly, but he will be earning weekly in excess of 80,000k to have that current tag, if not comfortably over the 100,000k mark via his bonuses schedule if he meets set targets.

As said, new signings are amortised over 5 years where any of our outgoing player sales profits hit the books immediately, so a 50 million profit on any player sales gives you 250 million pounds worth of PSR 'headroom to spend' on new signings in your first year in the PL.

I might be wrong in this assessment so feel free to correct me but it appears this summer 2025 spending trend backs it up. In fact Leeds have not posted a profit since 2017 which was 1 million pounds, I believe !

So fair to say in Latin lingo;
No praesentum aquam effundus, priusquam aliam sis adeptus.

Or in 49'ers current lingo;
Do not throw away the water you have until you have obtained more'.

Obviously what we have bought in is open for debate as is what we need to shift out.
Bit that is football today at most clubs now.

[WTF11]

To again flag up this quote of analysis
our PSR from earlier this year was estimated to be between 15m & 20m under the allowed limits in the profit & sustainability rules, I recall.

So assuming contracts 'now' are 4/5 year deals then that allowed a circa of 75m-100m in transfers if amortised over the 5 year permitted period.
Excluding player outgoing deals that'll make profit & those additional funds from PL status, plus increased revenue such as advertising which now boosts our kitty gotta assume 49ers are nailed onto their track.
'Tho I honestly thought the ER naming issue should have been capitalised on.

To be fair any incoming player deals of 150k per week are far beyond what Leeds have in place with our 'strict salary cap' now, but Calvert-Lewin is defo the highest-paid player at the club, for sure presently strangely & we beat him down from his original salary demands too. 😳

Not yet clear what that'll mean financially exactly, but he will be earning weekly in excess of 80,000k to have that current tag, if not comfortably over the 100,000k mark via his bonuses schedule if he meets set targets.

As said, new signings are amortised over 5 years where any of our outgoing player sales profits hit the books immediately, so a 50 million profit on any player sales gives you 250 million pounds worth of PSR 'headroom to spend' on new signings in your first year in the PL.

I might be wrong in this assessment so feel free to correct me but it appears this summer 2025 spending trend backs it up. In fact Leeds have not posted a profit since 2017 which was 1 million pounds, I believe !

So fair to say in Latin lingo;
No praesentum aquam effundus, priusquam aliam sis adeptus.

Or in 49'ers current lingo;
Do not throw away the water you have until you have obtained more'.

Obviously what we have bought in is open for debate as is what we need to shift out.
Bit that is football today at most clubs now.

My observation has little or nothing to do with the financial minutiae of player deals, but whether or not the appointments (managerial, coaching, player etc) deliver value for money and the requisite levels of skill and expertise.

Russell Martin was responsible for delivering Southamptons relegation from the PL at a point earlier in the season than ever before and yet 49-ers Enteprises thought he was a suitable coach for their new toy, Glasgow Rangers. That has gone well, yes?

THAT was my point.

[ozleeds]

Yes 49ers sure know what they are doing Greats to them.
Latest signing Farke is a world beater; look at the dross he let go, including Djed Spence, who has just been picked for England, or should I say the Middle East. Creswell, who is about to sign for a top German team, is selling one bright light in Gray and now not playing his brother; this guy is beautiful. Rama what a spud. Glad the furor has seen the light and brought in superior reinforcement.
Next, welcome Newcastle, Full Elland Road will be the real under-12 team, stand up, who knows, time will tell.

[Pacaman]

Thnx MT for that. I’m not clued up on that subject so help a lot.

Can’t disagree with your comments on this one Oz. Spence seemed a gem to me and so was Ramazani. Cresswell too! Hasn’t a value of £17m been put on him and he’s had a storming season.

There seem to be gaps in my understanding of DF’s rationale on players incoming and tactically in a game. I want and will support him but as I’ve said before, we have certainly been shopping and got a basket full of new players. Are they better than what we have/had? The squad maybe deeper but I’m not sure much quality has been added. It does feel like we’ve been shopping at Aldi and not M&S and to not have brought in a marquee striker (Unless that’s DCL?) is worrying.
I’ll give them time to gel etc etc but honestly don’t feel we have a team fit for purpose. We may have height but I haven’t seen much value in that so far.
We’ll see and fingers crossed for tomorrow.

[Pacaman]

This site - where do all the hieroglyphics come from!!

[Monaco_Totty]

My observation has little or nothing to do with the financial minutiae of player deals, but whether or not the appointments (managerial, coaching, player etc) deliver value for money and the requisite levels of skill and expertise.

Russell Martin was responsible for delivering Southamptons relegation from the PL at a point earlier in the season than ever before and yet 49-ers Enteprises thought he was a suitable coach for their new toy, Glasgow Rangers. That has gone well, yes?

THAT was my point.

Thanks for your polite reply WTF 👍

FWIW, my attitude to public comments uttered online is 'Oh well thats an interesting perspective so heres another way to look at it.'

In essence I was trying to point out relevant planning by 49'ers initial project was not just put together on the back of a chocolate wrapper last minute regarding delivering 'value for money'.

DF was appointed as Leeds Head Coach back in July 2023. He signed a 4 year contract at Leeds worth 2 million pounds a year making him the highest paid manager in the Championship during 2023/24 & 2024/25 seasons, obviously that can be mutually changed such is the nature of the game.

As is the norm now in 'corporate-management' of football clubs the strategy is uniform.
Primarily in the using of of data analytics for Coaching choices, player recruitment, performance analysis, data driven financial strategies for amortizing player contracts & utilising all associated party transactions to comply with Profit & Sustainability Rules.

So balance that with broader long-term talent development of academies plus diversification into 'new' revenue streams such as digital platforms via strategic marketing & fan engagement, now all go into helping to build a strong global brand.

Today clubs also heavily rely on integrated planning systems using sporting intelligence departments which require strong governance & leadership to navigate an increasingly complex regulatory environment to ensure overall long-term sustainability of all departments at a club whether that be Boardroom level or Junior age football level at clubs.

Possibly you may know better of how to find the elusive PL Golden egg or indeed a quicker route into Europes current aray of lucrative cup competitions on offer, whether by PL football or even how to crack success via Scotlands top League opportunities, but at this moment in time lets see what unfolds regarding visions of our current LUFC Owners, Coaches, players etc, cos the odds aint gonna be good, for sure.

I have no crystal-ball vision to offer but we go with what we got & with plenty of old fashioned 24/7 human 'graft' maybe we can just hold our own in a very competitive sporting biz world despite all the doom & gloom starting to rare its ugly head again regarding our PL opportunity to succeed - to which I am sure you are really wanting us to be a success too into securing PL status & thus carry on our club re-build projection status. 😊

Just saying

[WTF11]

Thanks for your polite reply WTF ��

FWIW, my attitude to public comments uttered online is 'Oh well thats an interesting perspective so heres another way to look at it.'

In essence I was trying to point out relevant planning by 49'ers initial project was not just put together on the back of a chocolate wrapper last minute regarding delivering 'value for money'.

DF was appointed as Leeds Head Coach back in July 2023. He signed a 4 year contract at Leeds worth 2 million pounds a year making him the highest paid manager in the Championship during 2023/24 & 2024/25 seasons, obviously that can be mutually changed such is the nature of the game.

As is the norm now in 'corporate-management' of football clubs the strategy is uniform.
Primarily in the using of of data analytics for Coaching choices, player recruitment, performance analysis, data driven financial strategies for amortizing player contracts & utilising all associated party transactions to comply with Profit & Sustainability Rules.

So balance that with broader long-term talent development of academies plus diversification into 'new' revenue streams such as digital platforms via strategic marketing & fan engagement, now all go into helping to build a strong global brand.

Today clubs also heavily rely on integrated planning systems using sporting intelligence departments which require strong governance & leadership to navigate an increasingly complex regulatory environment to ensure overall long-term sustainability of all departments at a club whether that be Boardroom level or Junior age football level at clubs.

Possibly you may know better of how to find the elusive PL Golden egg or indeed a quicker route into Europes current aray of lucrative cup competitions on offer, whether by PL football or even how to crack success via Scotlands top League opportunities, but at this moment in time lets see what unfolds regarding visions of our current LUFC Owners, Coaches, players etc, cos the odds aint gonna be good, for sure.

I have no crystal-ball vision to offer but we go with what we got & with plenty of old fashioned 24/7 human 'graft' maybe we can just hold our own in a very competitive sporting biz world despite all the doom & gloom starting to rare its ugly head again regarding our PL opportunity to succeed - to which I am sure you are really wanting us to be a success too into securing PL status & thus carry on our club re-build projection status. ��

Just saying

You may be surprised, but for the majority of both your responses I am in agreement with your analysis as to HOW we have arrived where we are.

What neither responses articulate is your view as to whether the RESULT of applying the strategies of player (and of more relevance to this thread, the coaching) recruitments is producing the results we all want. The 49-ers have been a significant influence in all matters LUFC-related since their initial investment and of course once full ownership was achieved. They are equally influential in their role at Rangers.

Even for those with whom I have regularly sparred in the past, Farkes performance isn't setting the world on fire, and that dissatisfaction will (I suspect) only grow more strident should we fail to win against at least one of Newcastle, Fulham and Wolves games. Insofar as Rangers are concerned, the abject performance against Club Brugge is one of a series of failures under Russell Martins coaching, and I'm not alone in wondering why he was thought by the 49-ers Enterprises to be a suitable coach for such a famous club with a VERY "engaged" supporter community.

Farke and Martin, in the opinion of a great many, do not appear to be "fit for purpose".

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

I do think managers get given too little time these days but Farke has had 2 years with us and the strengths are clear but so are the weaknesses.

Joseph, Cresswell and Ramazani are all PL quality and for whatever reason Farke fell out with and/or doesn’t rate them - that speaks volumes about him too.

Looks like Hamer may now be done - loan with obligation to buy being reported.

[whitestomper45]

What PL team does Joseph get in?

[ozleeds]

What PL team does Joseph get in?

Probably Rangers, as the 49ers are assembling a power house. They may not have lost a game so far, but haven't won one either. Smells like the 49ers are cooking.

[whitestomper45]

Probably, as Scottish football seems to be in decline lately, which proves DF is correct in sending him off to hopefully improve, think the other 2 would also be struggling to get in an average PL team, Cresswell has potential but DF will have even less time to develop him this season, should have at least 10 more appearances to his name for LUFC

[Monaco_Totty]

Charlie Crezzer still learning his current sweeper-role craft 'tho. Got caught out with the ball under pressure once or twice in a tremendous game that his current role protects his lack of pace well I watched on French tv.👍

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/live/ckgy6zzypw0t

[whitestomper45]

Yes his lack of pace would be exposed in PL. We are a PL team in survival mode for likely next 3 seasons, DF won?t choose potential over reliability too often..

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Yes his lack of pace would be exposed in PL. We are a PL team in survival mode for likely next 3 seasons, DF won?t choose potential over reliability too often..

Clever managers can find a way to negate that - look at Fulham under Silva they have the big lad who isn?t that quick but the system around him protects him.