Bid for Elanga

[Zippity]

?45 m

Seems a bit low, given how pivotal he is for them?

Rejected out of hand.

[Ragatino]

?45 m

Seems a bit low, given how pivotal he is for them?

Rejected out of hand.

Yeah not a surprise. It's a bit low ball. I don't see us going higher than 55m.

[Jammy89]

Same bid we allegedly went in for him in Jan.

Can't see us going much above ?50 million, agree with Rag that ?55 million is probs tops.

[PhoneymcRingRing]

Don?t even think he?s worth that, stupid money he?s no better than Murphy.

Have to stop dealing with premier league teams shop abroad.

[Zippity]

Don?t even think he?s worth that, stupid money he?s no better than Murphy.

Have to stop dealing with premier league teams shop abroad.

Aye, that's a fair point.

Saw someone on Twitter pointing out that 25 mil players are now costing 50 mil and 50 mil players are worth over 80 mil but the amount you're allowed to lose hasm't gone up. So clubs are having to pay more for players but the ceiling of what they can afford hasn't moved.

[Nufcian]

Aye, that's a fair point.

Saw someone on Twitter pointing out that 25 mil players are now costing 50 mil and 50 mil players are worth over 80 mil but the amount you're allowed to lose hasm't gone up. So clubs are having to pay more for players but the ceiling of what they can afford hasn't moved.

The amount has been the same (105m) since it’s inception (2013/14) and Ozil was the most expensive transfer that window, moving to Arsenal for £42.5M.

Fast forward to what is the very tail end of the 24/25 season and a 45M bid is rejected out of hand.

Out of all respects that FFP/PSR is a complete racket, the fact the permissible loss had not been adjusted is the most obvious.

It can’t believe there have been no legal challenges to it not even being adjusted by at least inflation.

That 105m in 2013 would be £147.5m as of May 25… that’s a f**king big difference!

[Ragatino]

Villa tabled an increase of the 105m limit to around 145m I believe, it was voted down 16-4.

There is some very perverse voting groups and alliances working in the background.

Interestingly though the cartel used to control the prem and pretty much all votes when Scudamore was in charge passed unanimously as the self interests of all 20 owners were met by the rule changes.

However, it's clear that as the Cartel have become more aggressive in their interference of the 'challenger clubs' to keep them under the boot by pushing Masters and his shills to bring the City Charges and punish Everton & Forest, plus their botched effort to penalise Leicester too, the vote has been split and alliances are now being formed along differing lines.

The mid-table also rans, the Brentfords, Fulhams, Wolves, Palace etc they will continue to fall in line with the Cartel to ensure their breadwinners keep buying their players at premium prices and keep them happily in mediocrity.

Villa, Everton, Forest and Us have woken up to the fact that City are being scapegoated and punished to make an example to 'us Nuevo riche' clubs to stay in your place.

PSR does nothing for those clubs with ambition and a desire to challenge the establishment. Fulham, Brentford, West Ham have no intention of every trying to make a title challenge or a serious tilt for regular Champions League participation so as far as the owners of these clubs are concerned 'We don't have to spend more money to keep our place in the Prem and cream off delicious juicy (credit Jacob Murphy) dividends on the yearly.

There will be more legal challenges by clubs taking the unlawful rules to arbitration. Furthermore, I can see fans groups becoming more active and as they aren't bound by Premier League clubs contracted rules can bring legal action against the likes of the Premier League & the PGMOL in open court cases.

The last thing the Prem crooks want, their rock turned over and their dirty little secrets brought out into the light as they try ti scuttle away back under another dirty rock of corruption.

[Jammy89]

We've put in a new bid for Elanga according to Fab.

?55 million.

Hopefully that, alongside him appearing to want to come here will be enough to get it rolling.

[Sclox]

Not a penny more, 1 week to accept then move on IMO.

[Nufcian]

Not a penny more, 1 week to accept then move on IMO.

Completely agree!

We paid not much more for Isak FFS? we have bought well from Europe under Howe in the past,

We cannot overpay, I think 55 is already paying too much? we can?t set any stupid precedent for being mugs and keep going back and upping our offers and getting strung along or we?ll have every team we approach trying it on

[Sclox]

Completely agree!

We paid not much more for Isak FFS? we have bought well from Europe under Howe in the past,

We cannot overpay, I think 55 is already paying too much? we can?t set any stupid precedent for being mugs and keep going back and upping our offers and getting strung along or we?ll have every team we approach trying it on

100%. I'd feel more comfortable at our 1st bid TBH. 50 max. Lets not be blaise about these numbers. Say it slow. 45 million pounds. Phew.

[Jammy89]

I think problem is that prices have moved on since we bough Isak.

Also Howe tends to like a player with prem experience which will cost more.

Sadly I don't think we can use the valuation of players we bought unless it's previous season really - it's a joke but that's how I see it.

I also don't think it's worth going higher than ?55 million and even that is very top end, I'm hoping it's less and add ons.

[Nufcian]

I think problem is that prices have moved on since we bough Isak.

Also Howe tends to like a player with prem experience which will cost more.

Sadly I don't think we can use the valuation of players we bought unless it's previous season really - it's a joke but that's how I see it.

I also don't think it's worth going higher than ?55 million and even that is very top end, I'm hoping it's less and add ons.

I agree with you mostly fella.

Prices have moved on, it just feels like a hell of a leap, but I guess this is now market value with the likes of Cunha and Mbuemo.

The lad is only 23, only turned that in April, so he’s got time to improve, last season when Forest had a brilliant season he played all 38 (which is a good sign) and scored 6 goals with 11 assists.

Not sure his end product is right up there yet, I think he offers something different to Murphy which is good… he actually takes defenders on and has more pace than Murphy, and at his age he’ll stand up to a full season.

If we buy him, I guess it’s time for Eddie to show what he can do to improve him, but I just hope we don’t see the same pattern we saw with Tonali, Hall, Tino, and don’t really see much of him on the pitch h for the first 1/3 of the season, and he has a full pre-season and we get that period out of the way that way.

I’m quite excited to see what he can do with Tino down that side, could have 2 very good flanks with Hall & Gordon and Tino and Elanga.

It’s also another Swedish player, and gives both of them more chance to firmly claim national spots if they are playing together… Isak will be competing with Gyokeres for his spot, who will move this summer to Prem most likely, so Isak has a battle on his hands and hopefully see’s playing with Elanga HERE another good reason to sign a new contract, to improve his chances of starting for Sweden over Gyokeres.

[Scott Kirkland]

Another reason that psr spending needs to be increased. Ridiculous increase on player prices. A 20 million pound player, 3 years ago. Is 60 million today

[Jammy89]

Lots of reports the bid has been accepted.

If we could get him and Trafford in before 7th so they can go off to pre-season, would be a brilliant start.