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  • Originally posted by BigFatPie View Post
    Cyprus and NZ must be hugely grateful for the calibre of intellect weve sent them.

    I dont doubt a small number of teachers put their own personal, possibly political slant on the curriculum theyre teaching. If you object to that you should probably home school your kids.

    To equate that with the social media platform owning richest man in the world using his influence to try to interfere or even bring down the elected UK government is of course nonsense. As anyone with at least 2 brain cells could work out.
    Clearly, the requirement of two brain cells, leaves some of you in deficit.

    If you think that anything Musk says is going to effect the UK vote, you're deluded because by the time anyone is old enough to start reading his guff, they've been ruined irrevocably by people like you already.

    Musk is only stating what many already believe but dare not express in public for fear of being locked up, this government has already ensured it's own, one term future.

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    • Originally posted by Lullapie View Post
      I may have left the UK 20 years ago, but schools have always been a hot bed for left wing agenda.
      From what I remember the NUT ceased to exist from 2017 onwards but merged with another union to form a non-political biased union.
      That all sounds good, but the NUT always had a militant left wing agenda, so what happened to their militant union members?
      Are they undercover in the new NEU union? I?m sure they haven?t disappeared off the face of the earth or become moderate centrists.
      They are the people who are responsible for educating our children and any educational syllabus is open to interpretation.
      Certain subjects are more easily taught with bias. History and social studies are two that spring to mind.

      Anyone who denies that this could happen either hasn?t been to school or is delusional.
      I think that you are probably right that the majority of teachers are in the centre or the left of the political spectrum. Same with nurses. Any professional that requires you to look after people and show a bit of empathy attracts left leaning people.

      But to suggest that the British education system and curriculum is in any way indoctrinating children to the left is well wide of the mark. Especially considering that it was devised largely by Gove and co! I am still awaiting a single example from our friend Med.

      Teachers aren't allowed to instill their personal beliefs, no matter how tempting it is. It is against the professional standards. They are there to provide facts that stimulate critical thinking and collaboration. Children make up their own minds.

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      • Originally posted by KCNotts View Post
        Please forgive my ignorance, but perhaps you could provide just one example of left wing indoctrination in schools? Or could it be, perhaps, that you don't actually have a clue what is being taught on our curriculum?
        Prayer room for muslims with mats facing east and bums in the air at whatever time it pleases?????????

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        • Originally posted by Med Pie View Post
          Well said Lullapie, I just couldn't be arsed, stating the obvious to dilettants.
          I can only assume you have an issue with teachers and schools supporting diversity and choice? Standing up to racism and intolerance? Not allowing your version of 'free speech'?

          That's not a school choice Med. That is the law of the land in which we live.

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          • Originally posted by The Dug Out View Post
            Prayer room for muslims with mats facing east and bums in the air at whatever time it pleases?????????
            Wow.

            Just wow.

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            • Originally posted by upthemaggies View Post
              "Modern Educayshun", an 8 minute film by the Indian-Australian comedian Neel Kolhatkar

              If some of this weren't true, it would be even funnier.

              Where's my Hero to take offence when you need him?

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              • Originally posted by KCNotts View Post
                I think that you are probably right that the majority of teachers are in the centre or the left of the political spectrum. Same with nurses. Any professional that requires you to look after people and show a bit of empathy attracts left leaning people.

                But to suggest that the British education system and curriculum is in any way indoctrinating children to the left is well wide of the mark. Especially considering that it was devised largely by Gove and co! I am still awaiting a single example from our friend Med.

                Teachers aren't allowed to instill their personal beliefs, no matter how tempting it is. It is against the professional standards. They are there to provide facts that stimulate critical thinking and collaboration. Children make up their own minds.
                Where have you just copied this from and interesting that you didn't include the police?

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                • Originally posted by Med Pie View Post
                  Clearly, the requirement of two brain cells, leaves some of you in deficit.

                  If you think that anything Musk says is going to effect the UK vote, you're deluded because by the time anyone is old enough to start reading his guff, they've been ruined irrevocably by people like you already.

                  Musk is only stating what many already believe but dare not express in public for fear of being locked up, this government has already ensured it's own, one term future.
                  Musk has no influence and kids are being *ruined irrevocably* by lefty teachers yet the lefty Labour government is undoubtedly going to be a one term administration?

                  Have you by any chance been hitting the taverna this afternoon?

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                  • Originally posted by KCNotts View Post
                    I think that you are probably right that the majority of teachers are in the centre or the left of the political spectrum. Same with nurses. Any professional that requires you to look after people and show a bit of empathy attracts left leaning people.

                    But to suggest that the British education system and curriculum is in any way indoctrinating children to the left is well wide of the mark. Especially considering that it was devised largely by Gove and co! I am still awaiting a single example from our friend Med.

                    Teachers aren't allowed to instill their personal beliefs, no matter how tempting it is. It is against the professional standards. They are there to provide facts that stimulate critical thinking and collaboration. Children make up their own minds.
                    It doesn?t matter who sets it. It?s who teaches it who matters.

                    If a nurse is told to treat all patients the same, but the nurse doesn?t like people who are obese, human nature will always override policy.

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                    • Originally posted by KCNotts View Post
                      I can only assume you have an issue with teachers and schools promoting diversity and choice? Standing up for racism and intolerance? Not allowing'free speech'?

                      That's not a school choice Med. That is the law of the land in which I no longer choose to live.
                      Fixed your homework there KC.

                      Not long before we left the UK, my little one came home and said 'Daddy, you said 'stupid', that's a bad, hurtful word'. No wonder the people of the UK no longer have a spine and are so whiney and hurt all the time, we left almost immediately when we found out they were being taught 'mindfulness' at age 5. I'd be lying if I didn't admit that the six figure salary, 12% income tax and superb NHS weren't a draw as well.

                      I saw a good article somewhere recently about the UK with the headline 'anyone that can leave, is leaving', here it is.

                      Last edited by Med Pie; 06-01-2025, 04:37 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by Lullapie View Post
                        It doesn?t matter who sets it. It?s who teaches it who matters.

                        If a nurse is told to treat all patients the same, but the nurse doesn?t like people who are obese, human nature will always override policy.
                        Can I just ask when the last time you entered a classroom was? You don't seem to have a grasp of what teaching is actually like. Earlier you said you haven't lived in the UK for 20 years? How are you qualified to make these assumptions?

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                        • Originally posted by Med Pie View Post
                          Fixed your homework there KC.

                          I read a very good article somewhere recently about the UK with the headline 'anyone that can leave, is leaving'.
                          Please don't change what I have written again.

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                          • Originally posted by Med Pie View Post
                            Clearly, the requirement of two brain cells, leaves some of you in deficit.

                            If you think that anything Musk says is going to effect the UK vote, you're deluded because by the time anyone is old enough to start reading his guff, they've been ruined irrevocably by people like you already.

                            Musk is only stating what many already believe but dare not express in public for fear of being locked up, this government has already ensured it's own, one term future.
                            Musk currently has huge influence in the US and also throughout the world. With him and Ramaswamy at the head of DOGE, that influence is only going to increase.

                            However, US influence over British politics is nothing new and Trump is keener to build bridges with people like Farage, who is an ardent supporter than alienate them.

                            The Musk/Farage thing is more of the left wing media stirring things up than anything else and them trying to deflect from the US debacle called the Democratic Party.

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                            • Originally posted by KCNotts View Post
                              Can I just ask when the last time you entered a classroom was? You don't seem to have a grasp of what teaching is actually like. Earlier you said you haven't lived in the UK for 20 years? How are you qualified to make these assumptions?
                              Bit of a stupid question. It?s a given for those with a grasp of reality that teachers are generally left wing.

                              I wasn?t looking to pick a fight, but your comment about people in caring professions are left of centre will definitely end up in the Top 10 of most stupid comments made on NCM in 2025.

                              By your own standards do you know the political leaning of ALL of those in the caring professions? If not, don?t make stupid statements that you can?t qualify and declare them as fact.

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                              • Originally posted by KCNotts View Post
                                Please don't change what I have written again.
                                I bet you didn?t have many friends at school.

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