O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[Med Pie]

Following on from the conversation about education, I offer this piece on kids mental health and the shocking number of kids who claim to be affected with mental health issues. I also attach a line from the article, one that I think many people will agree is the obvious reason though I fully expect the label of 'dinosaur' to be attached again.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gp19n111vo

But some experts in the field of mental health have raised another question: that is, is there really a mental health crisis or are young people simply not resilient enough?

I'm certain that I know the answer.

[Mapperleypie]

I'm certain that I know the answer.

A man of your obvious intellect is completely wasted on Notts Mad Med Pie. It's a shame in all your years on earth more people had not listened to you.

[magpie_mania]

Following on from the conversation about education, I offer this piece on kids mental health and the shocking number of kids who claim to be affected with mental health issues. I also attach a line from the article, one that I think many people will agree is the obvious reason though I fully expect the label of 'dinosaur' to be attached again.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gp19n111vo

But some experts in the field of mental health have raised another question: that is, is there really a mental health crisis or are young people simply not resilient enough?

I'm certain that I know the answer.

Some experts .... you quote from that article (which is a good one), but what about this one?

'However not everyone is in agreement on the issue of resilience - or the questions around the potential downsides of greater mental health awareness.

Dr Shari McDaid, head of policy and evidence (Scotland and Northern Ireland) at the Mental Health Foundation, argues that any suggestion that increased awareness is to blame for rising rates of mental health problems is "misleading".'

The article ends in this way, which I agree with:

'So, perhaps the question at the heart of the mental health crisis is less about whether young people are resilient enough - but whether they can access sufficient support to become so.'

And that support, imo, begins at home.

[SinceSept1959]

Judging by the performance of PM's
( and Heads of State )particularly from the Blair/ Brown era, to the present time , perhaps, we should have televised psychiatric tests alongside the pre election campaign debates ?
How , have we arrived at a situation, whereby calls for public inquiries, into wholesale , serial and systemic offending of the worst possible kind, renders those advocates to be " jumping on a far right bandwagon ?"
Why, have the basic principles of "justice, " decency and right over wrong, become secondary to political interest and power ?

[SmiffyPie]

Politics is a dirty game and all sides use anything to score points. The thing is, the whole political spectrum is so tainted that spotting the truth is nigh on impossible. For all sides their way is the only way and anything anyone else says (no matter how sensible) is deemed wrong. I do think though that in this case KS is having a dig at Musk and his interference?

[Med Pie]

A man of your obvious intellect is completely wasted on Notts Mad Med Pie. It's a shame in all your years on earth more people had not listened to you.

I'm extremely offended by this and may need a break for the sake of my mental health.........................

Anyone of a certain age can clearly see that we have a soft, spoiled generation who are mortally offended or at least they claim to be, by absolutely anything and everything. They'd have been terrified of my maths teacher, out history teacher who would hurl a board rubber at people and the geography teacher who caned me, my mate was even slippered at junior school.

God only knows who will defend the country if war ever does break out again.

[Kent Magpie]

I'm extremely offended by this and may need a break for the sake of my mental health.........................

Anyone of a certain age can clearly see that we have a soft, spoiled generation who are mortally offended or at least they claim to be, by absolutely anything and everything. They'd have been terrified of my maths teacher, out history teacher who would hurl a board rubber at people and the geography teacher who caned me, my mate was even slippered at junior school.

God only knows who will defend the country if war ever does break out again.

Don't be soft. This is a lazy stereotype pushed by ignorant people who can't be bothered to look beyond their own privilege.

I am of a certain age and had teachers who did the same thing. They didn't terrify me, but I did (and still do) think they were **** teachers. I learned far more from those who didn't need to resort to violence to keep control. I can see the abuse you received from your teachers has really scarred you, but you need to get over it and not be such a snowflake.

The boomers and Gen X have had it really easy; no significant wars involving the UK, relatively affordable houses, cheap / free education, well paid jobs, not having to contend with 0 hours contracts or having to work for free just to have the vague chance of a shot at a job etc etc. I floated through life comparatively and now own my house, am well paid and have never had to risk my life to defend my country. I look at what my daughters have to contend with and it amazes me that they cope at all (and that doesn't even begin to cover misogyny, harassment etc that they have to face in addition to their male counterparts).

I am sure you won't be offended by this as you are made of far sterner stuff.

[frenchmagpie]

Don't be soft. This is a lazy stereotype pushed by ignorant people who can't be bothered to look beyond their own privilege.

I am of a certain age and had teachers who did the same thing. They didn't terrify me, but I did (and still do) think they were **** teachers. I learned far more from those who didn't need to resort to violence to keep control. I can see the abuse you received from your teachers has really scarred you, but you need to get over it and not be such a snowflake.

The boomers and Gen X have had it really easy; no significant wars involving the UK, relatively affordable houses, cheap / free education, well paid jobs, not having to contend with 0 hours contracts or having to work for free just to have the vague chance of a shot at a job etc etc. I floated through life comparatively and now own my house, am well paid and have never had to risk my life to defend my country. I look at what my daughters have to contend with and it amazes me that they cope at all (and that doesn't even begin to cover misogyny, harassment etc that they have to face in addition to their male counterparts).

I am sure you won't be offended by this as you are made of far sterner stuff.

A virtual handshake to you sir (or ma'am). You are clearly a grown up human being who doesn't break down and blame anyone who doesn't look like them for all their miserable failings in life. Well said.

[Med Pie]

Don't be soft. This is a lazy stereotype pushed by ignorant people who can't be bothered to look beyond their own privilege.

I am of a certain age and had teachers who did the same thing. They didn't terrify me, but I did (and still do) think they were **** teachers. I learned far more from those who didn't need to resort to violence to keep control. I can see the abuse you received from your teachers has really scarred you, but you need to get over it and not be such a snowflake.

The boomers and Gen X have had it really easy; no significant wars involving the UK, relatively affordable houses, cheap / free education, well paid jobs, not having to contend with 0 hours contracts or having to work for free just to have the vague chance of a shot at a job etc etc. I floated through life comparatively and now own my house, am well paid and have never had to risk my life to defend my country. I look at what my daughters have to contend with and it amazes me that they cope at all (and that doesn't even begin to cover misogyny, harassment etc that they have to face in addition to their male counterparts).

I am sure you won't be offended by this as you are made of far sterner stuff.

You clearly missed the point that I was being sarcastic, I am far from being a snowflake!

[Med Pie]

A virtual handshake to you sir (or ma'am). You are clearly a grown up human being who doesn't break down and blame anyone who doesn't look like them for all their miserable failings in life. Well said.

I'm living the life, point out my 'miserable failings'?

I'm not stuck in a grey, dreary, zero hours **** hole for the rest of my life and neither are my daughters, thank God. You're waking up every day in a society that is falling down around you, in every, possible way and lefties like your are largely to blame for allowing it to happen.

I'll be in Colombia for a month from Feb whilst you're freezing your tits off because you can't afford to have your heating on.

I was sunbathing today with a view from the house over the Med on one side and the Troodos mountains on the other and now I'm off to the taverna to ponder my 'miserable failings', ta, ta.

[KCNotts]

I'm living the life, point out my 'miserable failings'?

I'm not stuck in a grey, dreary, zero hours **** hole for the rest of my life and neither are my daughters, thank God. You're waking up every day in a society that is falling down around you, in every, possible way and lefties like your are largely to blame for allowing it to happen.

I'll be in Colombia for a month from Feb whilst you're freezing your tits off because you can't afford to have your heating on.

I was sunbathing today with a view from the house over the Med on one side and the Troodos mountains on the other and now I'm off to the taverna to ponder my 'miserable failings', ta, ta.

For someone who has it all, you don't half spend a lot of time arguing with strangers on the internet or ranting about a country you no longer live in and appear to have washed your hands of. Why are you bothered Sir?

You don't strike me as a very happy chap.

[magpie_mania]

I'm extremely offended by this and may need a break for the sake of my mental health.........................

Anyone of a certain age can clearly see that we have a soft, spoiled generation who are mortally offended or at least they claim to be, by absolutely anything and everything. They'd have been terrified of my maths teacher, out history teacher who would hurl a board rubber at people and the geography teacher who caned me, my mate was even slippered at junior school.

God only knows who will defend the country if war ever does break out again.

Yes there were some teachers I was terrified of.

I learned nothing from them, had no respect for them, hated them. I remember the one who took two of us by the hair and cracked our foreheads together - is that what you want?

What is this certain age?

And mocking people who really are extremely affected by mental health issues? Well done.

[Mud Pie]

For all sides their way is the only way and anything anyone else says (no matter how sensible) is deemed wrong.

yes. Even you - a normally seemingly sensible poster - supports Med and Lulla's obvious bigotry and intolerance over reasonable discussion. You called me a racist for pointing it out - or an ageist/***ist it was hard to tell - and when I asked how you thought I could have raised the issue better - in the interest of hearing you out - you basically ran away leaving us with your drive-by insult. Your way is the only way?

[Mud Pie]

I'm living the life

I genuinely hope you start making enough to afford PiesPlayer so you don't have to keep begging others to post highlights on here.

Living away from Nottm myself for years, it's been a renaissance Godsend! UPIES!

[SmiffyPie]

yes. Even you - a normally seemingly sensible poster - supports Med and Lulla's obvious bigotry and intolerance over reasonable discussion. You called me a racist for pointing it out - or an ageist/***ist it was hard to tell - and when I asked how you thought I could have raised the issue better - in the interest of hearing you out - you basically ran away leaving us with your drive-by insult. Your way is the only way?

Give over. I posted the option to google the current argument (which was the influence of the left on education) to allow a person to weigh up different opinions, how can that be seen as supporting either side of the argument? As for the drive-by that wasn't intentional by any means (and I can't remember thinking that you were asking a question, or I would have responded - my biggest fault - responding). I was looking for references for my reply but I ran out of the will to live with constant arguments. I apologise if I appear to have intended any insult, that wasn't my intention.