O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[bule1]

Whilst the doctors also want to impose restrictive practices to preserve their status and stop others doing work that they are well capable of doing for less money. Not exactly putting the patients first despite what they would claim.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2dly5ldrxjo

[TheBlackHorse]

... as ever and always, Liebour politics of envy ...they haven't got a clue ...they can't seem to learn ... think money solves all the problems.

[Observerpie]

... as ever and always, Liebour politics of envy ...they haven't got a clue ...they can't seem to learn ... think money solves all the problems.

They think that someone else's money solves all the problems. Fixed it for you.

[Med Pie]

Wasn't Starmer the one who sorted the doctor's strike to get that 50m start?

Whilst driving up inflation with stupid pay rises, one of them to doctors.

[Med Pie]

Whilst the doctors also want to impose restrictive practices to preserve their status and stop others doing work that they are well capable of doing for less money. Not exactly putting the patients first despite what they would claim.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2dly5ldrxjo

NHS staff have ruined the system, none of them want to work full time because they know they can be paid twice as much by signing on as agency staff.

Undercut them, end the gravy train that allows this practise, let them go abroad if they want to, get doctors and nurses in from around the World as we always have.

If Starmer could resurrect the NHS and show that he'd done it through savvy use of the immigration system, the public may look a bit more favourably on him.

[Elite_Pie]

NHS staff have ruined the system, none of them want to work full time because they know they can be paid twice as much by signing on as agency staff.

That is possibly the most stupid and ignorant lie I've ever read on here.

[Med Pie]

That is possibly the most stupid and ignorant lie I've ever read on here.

How so?

I have personally experienced time in an NHS hospital where the ward was staffed by 3/4 agency staff whilst others were employed 'part time' by the NHS, perhaps they were lying?

Over to you nurse.

[Med Pie]

Meanwhile and this is not a joke......

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/14/police-isis-terrorist-niqab-west-midlands-farishta-jami/

How is this even remotely, useful in identification terms?

[Elite_Pie]

How so?

I have personally experienced time in an NHS hospital where the ward was staffed by 3/4 agency staff whilst others wehere employed 'part time' by the NHS, perhaps they were lying?

Over to you nurse.

You said "NHS staff have ruined the system, none of them want to work full time". The NHS employs 1.3 million people who work full time, so you were blatantly lying. And then you try and justify it by giving one unverified example of "your experience".

Do you realise how pathetic that sounds?

[Med Pie]

You said "NHS staff have ruined the system, none of them want to work full time". The NHS employs 1.3 million people who work full time, so you were blatantly lying. And then you try and justify it by giving one unverified example of "your experience".

Do you realise how pathetic that sounds?

What percentage of those people are doctors or nurses, you're playing fast and loose with stats yourself there. Clearly, there are some 'unskilled' workers, the majority in fact, who cannot hold the country to ransom.

It isn't historical, my mum was a nurse but more and more 'skilled' NHS' staff are choosing to work part time and the system has sleepwalked in to it. I stand by my comment.

Your view is slanted anyway, isn't your wife or daughter a nurse, seem to recall you once said one was?

[Elite_Pie]

What percentage of those people are doctors or nurses, you're playing fast and loose with stats yourself there.

Complete bullsh!t yet again. I'll repeat what you posted, again in bold in the hope it sinks in this time - "NHS staff have ruined the system, none of them want to work full time". You didn't talk about particular grades of staff, you plainly said "NHS staff". So I gave you figures for exactly that, NHS staff.

[bule1]

Is it just me this does not sit right with for a politician (forget the party politics aspect) who is meant to be an upstanding member of society who was responsible for an incident like he was. He was charged with a lesser charge than he could have been and he gave at best a misleading account of the events, to quote the judge "In reality, you told the police a pack of lies. Nothing more, nothing less,". Examples were made in the sentencing of some of the protestors last year, even for some of the lesser offences which I have no issue with. However, as he is someone in public office I feel a similar sort of example should have been made here.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8yy0116y8o

[Elite_Pie]

I see that Reform, who are pretty equal with Labour in the polls appear to be in civil war.

Who would have thought it?

[Elite_Pie]

Is it just me this does not sit right with for a politician (forget the party politics aspect) who is meant to be an upstanding member of society who was responsible for an incident like he was. He was charged with a lesser charge than he could have been and he gave at best a misleading account of the events, to quote the judge "In reality, you told the police a pack of lies. Nothing more, nothing less,". Examples were made in the sentencing of some of the protestors last year, even for some of the lesser offences which I have no issue with. However, as he is someone in public office I feel a similar sort of example should have been made here.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8yy0116y8o

Amesbury has finally done the right thing and said he will stand down as an MP.

It will be an interesting by-election.

[Bohinen]

Apparently, Steve Coogan (remember him?) has been expelled from the Labour Party for advising people to vote tactically in the election. Does this make me impressed with the leadership? I think the worst fears of reluctant Labour voters like me are coming to fruition. Starmer is an awful leader.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...s-lewes-tories