O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[lunaspie]

Mossad have been casing the tunnels for months.

[i961pie]

As far I’m aware the vast majority of or even all gifts and donations were formally declared through the correct channels. Which doesn’t necessarily make them right, but puts them on a very different scale to anything the Tories got up to, and still do I assume.

Deciding that ‘they’re all the same’ is exactly the sort of impression that the right wing press and particularly the Tory infested BBC want people to take away. ‘They’re all the same’ is also a sentiment popular on here and elsewhere amongst people who I’m very confident were desperate to vote Tory or more likely Reform at the election. Labour will never do anything right in their eyes because they aren’t racist/xenophobic enough. They hold the party they don’t vote for to much higher standards than the parties that they do.

Keir Starmer has had a season ticket at Arsenal for years, he can’t now use it. Boris Johnson’s donor gave him more money for wallpaper in one transaction than Starmer has received in total AND Johnson then tried to keep it secret. I’m be happy to get rid of all personal political gifts and donations. I’m pretty sure Farage and Tory politicians will lose out far more than Labour’s.


That all being said, Labour have to get far smarter at what they accept and from whom, especially when they bring in policies like getting rid of the WFA and keeping the 2 child benefit limit. Getting rid of the Tory Simon Case might also be a good idea. Unfortunately they’ve got to accept that double standards are very much de rigeur in British politics.

Nicked from twitter


‘The Tories and their defenders in the press want to drag everything down to their miserable ****ing level. They want you to think this government is as bad as theirs, as incompetent as theirs, as rife with cronyism as theirs .... seriously don't ****ing fall for it.’

According to the BBC Lord Brownlow gave Boris a loan to renovate his flat and he payed it back but the opposition went on about it for ages. Now Labour have been caught out accepting gifts and why does Starmers son need a penthouse apartments to study for his exams? It just goes to show no matter which party are in they all have their noses in the trough. By the way I voted Labour. No wonder millions of people don't vote any more.

[Notsohumblepie]

According to the BBC Lord Brownlow gave Boris a loan to renovate his flat and he payed it back but the opposition went on about it for ages. Now Labour have been caught out accepting gifts and why does Starmers son need a penthouse apartments to study for his exams? It just goes to show no matter which party are in they all have their noses in the trough. By the way I voted Labour. No wonder millions of people don't vote any more.

Fear not !

With Sir Keir’s new found ability to transform captives into foodstuffs , he will solve prison overcrowding, and remove the need for food banks in one fell swoop .

Might create a mustard shortage though

[BigFatPie]

According to the BBC Lord Brownlow gave Boris a loan to renovate his flat and he payed it back but the opposition went on about it for ages. Now Labour have been caught out accepting gifts and why does Starmers son need a penthouse apartments to study for his exams? It just goes to show no matter which party are in they all have their noses in the trough. By the way I voted Labour. No wonder millions of people don't vote any more.

What did Johnson ‘humbly apologise’ for then? And blamed his phone haha.

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-offers-humble-apology-and-blames-new-phone-for-failing-to-release-messages-to-downing-street-flat-probe-12510076

Starmer borrowed a friend’s flat for his son to revise for his GCSEs at no cost to either himself or the taxpayer, and then declared it through the correct channels. You’ll have to explain again to me what exactly he’s done wrong.

[forwardmagpie]

What did Johnson ‘humbly apologise’ for then? And blamed his phone haha.

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-offers-humble-apology-and-blames-new-phone-for-failing-to-release-messages-to-downing-street-flat-probe-12510076

Starmer borrowed a friend’s flat for his son to revise for his GCSEs at no cost to either himself or the taxpayer, and then declared it through the correct channels. You’ll have to explain again to me what exactly he’s done wrong.

Have a look at the date he was given it to use and then the dates of his sons exams and then come to your own decision on the truthfulness of his explanation.

[SmiffyPie]

I tried to post a link from the FT about Lord Alli (it has been mentioned on here about his influence) but post went to a subscription page however if you Google "Labour MP home loan" and go three or so links down you should see the FT link straight into the page. A very unbiased article (as most FT articles are) and an insight into his work (?) with the Labour Party.

[BigFatPie]

Have a look at the date he was given it to use and then the dates of his sons exams and then come to your own decision on the truthfulness of his explanation.

If there are further allegations around that are as precise as that, you’ve got provide a link if you want me to read about them.

But it does sound a bit desperate.

[SmiffyPie]

This early release scheme seems to be a right cockup! Restraining orders not logged correctly and convictions on outdated laws that the "system" doesn't recognise. When prisoner X is flagged up for early release does no one in the prison actually double check?

[forwardmagpie]

If there are further allegations around that are as precise as that, you’ve got provide a link if you want me to read about them.

But it does sound a bit desperate.

So you happy with all the legal donations he has received - nothing to see here and I’m desperate

The HOC records say he “rented” the property from the 29th May 2024 to the 13th July 2024.

The first GCSE exam was on the 9th May 2024 and they ended on the 19th June 2024.

So he started revising there 20 days after the exams started and continued revising 24 days after the exams finished.

[i961pie]

What did Johnson ‘humbly apologise’ for then? And blamed his phone haha.

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-offers-humble-apology-and-blames-new-phone-for-failing-to-release-messages-to-downing-street-flat-probe-12510076

Starmer borrowed a friend’s flat for his son to revise for his GCSEs at no cost to either himself or the taxpayer, and then declared it through the correct channels. You’ll have to explain again to me what exactly he’s done wrong.

There is none so blind has he who will not see.😀

[BigFatPie]

So you happy with all the legal donations he has received - nothing to see here and I’m desperate

The HOC records say he “rented” the property from the 29th May 2024 to the 13th July 2024.

The first GCSE exam was on the 9th May 2024 and they ended on the 19th June 2024.

So he started revising there 20 days after the exams started and continued revising 24 days after the exams finished.

He’s said he started to use the property after the election was called, because the media attention at his own house had become so intense his son couldn’t effectively prepare for his exams.

I mean it’s up to you whether you think that’s a reasonable ‘explanation’. It’s worth bearing in mind that Rishi Sunak would have had no need to borrow a property because he and his wife are so rich they’ve more than likely got multiple properties across the capital. If they had borrowed one in these circumstances it would have been fine with me and no doubt plenty of others who are pretending to be cross about it.

[BigFatPie]

There is none so blind has he who will not see.😀

That’s not a very good explanation

[forwardmagpie]

He’s said he started to use the property after the election was called, because the media attention at his own house had become so intense his son couldn’t effectively prepare for his exams.

I mean it’s up to you whether you think that’s a reasonable ‘explanation’. It’s worth bearing in mind that Rishi Sunak would have had no need to borrow a property because he and his wife are so rich they’ve more than likely got multiple properties across the capital. If they had borrowed one in these circumstances it would have been fine with me and no doubt plenty of others who are pretending to be cross about it.

He needed to be given use of an £18 million penthouse Covent Garden flat for his son to revise even though his GCSE’s had started 20 days previously makes perfect sense. Him staying there revising 24 days after his exams also makes perfect sense.

But if you are happy with clothes for ministers, glasses, sports tickets, flat in New York, £ million loans, Taylor Swift concerts, use of the flats for Covid speech etc etc then I’m sure it all makes perfect sense.

Why do we need to bear in mind Mr Sunak is rich this is about millionaire Mr Starmer who is going to bring change.

I think the opinion polls show people aren’t pretending to be cross about it.

[JoePass]

Stammer…the Brat must be the Wurst PM ever.

[i961pie]

What did Johnson ‘humbly apologise’ for then? And blamed his phone haha.

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-offers-humble-apology-and-blames-new-phone-for-failing-to-release-messages-to-downing-street-flat-probe-12510076

Starmer borrowed a friend’s flat for his son to revise for his GCSEs at no cost to either himself or the taxpayer, and then declared it through the correct channels. You’ll have to explain again to me what exactly he’s done wrong.

He’s said he started to use the property after the election was called, because the media attention at his own house had become so intense his son couldn’t effectively prepare for his

I mean it’s up to you whether you think that’s a reasonable ‘explanation’. It’s worth bearing in mind that Rishi Sunak would have had no need to borrow a property because he and his wife are so rich they’ve more than likely got multiple properties across the capital. If they had borrowed one in these circumstances it would have been fine with me and no doubt plenty of others who are pretending to be cross about it.

Let's face it if it was the Tories that had took the winter allowance from millions of pensioners and accepted all these freebies you would have gone into meltdown. It might not be illegal but it leaves a nasty taste in people's mouths when we are being told we will be hit hard financially very soon.
It's early days of this government and as EP says judge them in 4 years time so let's see.