O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[Lullapie]

The majority on here are in favour of the welfare state. The only negative comments I have seen over the years are those that mention the abuse of the welfare state (the lazy and the work-shy who know how to work the system).

I'm not in favour of the Welfare State. The term implies that it is a way to have your life controlled - like The Fascist State or The Hermit State.

I'm in favour of a safety net for all those that need to call on it, but it's reviewed every three months. There has to be certain, minimal criteria that the recipient has to meet each time - depending on why they are receiving the payment. I'm 100% against child benefit of ANY form. Why should the taxpayer subsidise others to breed?

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Leave the monarchy out of this.

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[OchPie]

I'm not in favour of the Welfare State. The term implies that it is a way to have your life controlled - like The Fascist State or The Hermit State.

The term "Welfare State" was coined for Britain in the early 1940s as a counterpoint to the Nazi Germany "Warfare State".

[SmiffyPie]

I'm 100% against child benefit of ANY form. Why should the taxpayer subsidise others to breed?

Because they are the tax payers of the future?
And referring back to my means test post a few days ago, if it wasn't for family allowance (as it was then) me and my sister would have starved (we were close to it anyway, single parent, poor pay for women, rent, electricity and gas meter and all the rest of it). Guess some people were born lucky eh?

[Old_pie]

https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/15/uk_prime_minister_regulators/?td=rt-3a

"Keir Starmer tells regulators to chill as Microsoft exec takes wheel of advisory council
What could possibly go wrong?"

A legal professional in the UK voiced concerns about potential conflict of interest in hiring a Microsoft exec to work in a public sector role.

"Leaving aside the crass stupidity of appointing the UK head of a US HQ'ed global supplier under ongoing active investigation by the CMA for alleged manipulation of their market share, the gov[ernment] have arguably both sent a clear message of their faith and dependency on Microsoft AND dealt the CMA's investigation a crashing blow," he told The Reg.

Buy your Microsoft Shares now! Right wing governments allowing foreign nationals to formulate policies - indeed what possibly can go wrong.

[Med Pie]

I'm not in favour of the Welfare State. The term implies that it is a way to have your life controlled - like The Fascist State or The Hermit State.

I'm in favour of a safety net for all those that need to call on it, but it's reviewed every three months. There has to be certain, minimal criteria that the recipient has to meet each time - depending on why they are receiving the payment. I'm 100% against child benefit of ANY form. Why should the taxpayer subsidise others to breed?

Your first statement is contradicted by the second, highlighted line with which I agree. Without a welfare state, we'd have miles of 'tent Cities' like we see in America, even in affluent Cities.

I think benefits should be removed from those whose incapacity is brought about by drug abuse or alcohol dependence however, there are myriad circumstances, almost endless combinations of factors in each, individual case so it's difficult to craft a 'one size fits all'.

Thank goodness for the two child limit on child benefit which some Liberals want to overturn or hundreds of millions more would be going to immigrant families who have twice as many kids on average as the Brits do.

[Lullapie]

Your first statement is contradicted by the second, highlighted line with which I agree. Without a welfare state, we'd have miles of 'tent Cities' like we see in America, even in affluent Cities.

I think benefits should be removed from those whose incapacity is brought about by drug abuse or alcohol dependence however, there are myriad circumstances, almost endless combinations of factors in each, individual case so it's difficult to craft a 'one size fits all'.

Thank goodness for the two child limit on child benefit which some Liberals want to overturn or hundreds of millions more would be going to immigrant families who have twice as many kids on average as the Brits do.

The tent cities aren't caused by the US welfare system. They are caused by the opioid and Fentanyl epidemic. I was in San Francisco, New Jersey and New York last year. Vast areas of many US cities are like scenes from a zombie film - that has nothing to do with state funded benefits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWBzxr3c29s

The Welfare State is a means of living for many - that is what I am against.

[Lullapie]

The term "Welfare State" was coined for Britain in the early 1940s as a counterpoint to the Nazi Germany "Warfare State".

Many thanks .

[keldsyke]

I wonder which ‘Two Tier’ justice system Mike Amesbury is going to receive? The ‘Lock ‘em up’ straight away because they’ve posted something nasty on Facetube, or the ‘Try and forget about it’ system used if you kick off with armed Police in Manchester airport, going to be interesting this.

[bule1]

I wonder which ‘Two Tier’ justice system Mike Amesbury is going to receive? The ‘Lock ‘em up’ straight away because they’ve posted something nasty on Facetube, or the ‘Try and forget about it’ system used if you kick off with armed Police in Manchester airport, going to be interesting this.

Or the same a Ricky Jones with his ‘we need to cut their throats and get rid of them’. whilst the unrest was going on.

[OP67]

Or the same a Ricky Jones with his ‘we need to cut their throats and get rid of them’. whilst the unrest was going on.

Any coincidense that Ricky Jones court date is the same day as the budget when all the news will be about us all getting poorer if that's possible!!!

They'll have to release a couple of prisoners to get Jones and Amesbury behind bars where they belong surely....I'll not hold my breath!

[BigFatPie]

I wonder which ‘Two Tier’ justice system Mike Amesbury is going to receive? The ‘Lock ‘em up’ straight away because they’ve posted something nasty on Facetube, or the ‘Try and forget about it’ system used if you kick off with armed Police in Manchester airport, going to be interesting this.

Pleading guilty does tend to expedite the justice process.

[keldsyke]

Pleading guilty does tend to expedite the justice process.

The two Manchester Airport thugs have pleaded guilty?

[Notsohumblepie]

Pleading guilty does tend to expedite the justice process.

With respect , so does the implied threat of an extended period on remand, without bail.

[MarcusCole]

Pleading guilty does tend to expedite the justice process.

As does having multiple videos of the incident and eye witnesses. Well usually it would.