O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[jackal2]

Final comment Leggo.

You are quite entitled to your views but be careful about calling people stupid. Tens of thousands of ordinary folk deserting Labour for the Tories can't all be wrong and stupid. They may be in your opinion - but you are massively outnumbered by these people whose opinion differs from your own and using the old saying, all of them can't be wrong.

If you insult people and dismiss their views, you're highly unlikely to get them to listen to your side of the argument, let alone win them over. It would be stupid to imagine you could.

[Mapperleypie]

He left someone in the role of health secretary at the start of the pandemic that has taken approx 128,000 UK lives he considered 'f*****g hopeless'

Our glorious leader.

[seriouspie]

He left someone in the role of health secretary at the start of the pandemic that has taken approx 128,000 UK lives he considered 'f*****g hopeless'

Our glorious leader.

Naturally your tribe would have done things much differently at the beginning eh? You know it all but in reality know sweet f'call. Of course the dynamic charismatic Captain Stumer would have done much better...... this Europe loving tw@t would have left sourcing of the vaccine to the EU if they were in control and god knows how many lives would have been lost. But of course you forget these things. Still think Boris won't have at least a 10 point lead over your pathetic mob by the end of this month? I await your reasoned reply on this. Of course you, Fatboy and the Broxtowe socialist could just simply acknowledge you lost a bet for all to see but I don't hold my breath as despite my gentle nudge last week, silence has prevailed so far although admittedly, there's still two weeks left for Boz's ratings to plummet.

[Mapperleypie]

Naturally your tribe would have done things much differently at the beginning eh? You know it all but in reality know sweet f'call. Of course the dynamic charismatic Captain Stumer would have done much better...... this Europe loving tw@t would have left sourcing of the vaccine to the EU if they were in control and god knows how many lives would have been lost. But of course you forget these things. Still think Boris won't have at least a 10 point lead over your pathetic mob by the end of this month? I await your reasoned reply on this. Of course you, Fatboy and the Broxtowe socialist could just simply acknowledge you lost a bet for all to see but I don't hold my breath as despite my gentle nudge last week, silence has prevailed so far although admittedly, there's still two weeks left for Boz's ratings to plummet.

Hahahaha.

Reasoned reply?!?

He left a health secretary in place he thought was useless at the start of a pandemic. There are tens of thousands of people that would have been alive today were this government more competent in their handling at the start, but it was heard immunity they were going for. Murderous clowns. That's before we get to closing the borders to Bangladesh and Pakistan despite their rates being lower than India at the time to suck up to Modi, hence the car crash we have now.

I honestly can't remember having a bet with you but quite happy to be proven wrong to the benefit of a charity of your choice.

[Elite_Pie]

Naturally your tribe would have done things much differently at the beginning eh? You know it all but in reality know sweet f'call. Of course the dynamic charismatic Captain Stumer would have done much better......

Pathetic. This has nothing at all to do with what Starmer might have done, it's about the disgraceful handling of the pandemic by this government costing the needless loss of many lives. As Boris's former best mate just said, "If No 10 is prepared to lie so deeply and widely about such v ital issues of life and death last year, it cannot be trusted now either on Covid or any other crucial issue".

Regarding the bet, it seems enough of the public are quite happy to be lied to. It doesn't seem to bother many that the bloke in charge is a proven liar and cheat. He could probably bugger the Queen on the steps of Buckingham Palace and his ratings would remain stable. If you win (as looks likely), I will of course pay £20 to a charity of your choice as agreed.

[BigFatPie]

If you insult people and dismiss their views, you're highly unlikely to get them to listen to your side of the argument, let alone win them over. It would be stupid to imagine you could.

That’s true. Just lie to them instead. Works every time.

I’ll pay the bet as well, the polls are very disappointing as has Starmer’s performance for the last 6 months or so. His lack of political experience and know how has sadly shown through.

He would still though have done a far far better job than that buffoon who’s currently calling himself prime minister. Take your pick, Covid, Brexit, ‘trade agreements’ , Northern Ireland, Hancock. pathetic culture wars, Cummings. The whole thing is a disaster zone. It would be of course all very amusing if it wasn’t people’s lives and jobs at stake.

They get away with because of the many voters like seriouspie who think the likes of Johnson are better than them because they have posh accents and went to expensive schools.

[seriouspie]

Hahahaha.

Reasoned reply?!?

He left a health secretary in place he thought was useless at the start of a pandemic. There are tens of thousands of people that would have been alive today were this government more competent in their handling at the start, but it was heard immunity they were going for. Murderous clowns. That's before we get to closing the borders to Bangladesh and Pakistan despite their rates being lower than India at the time to suck up to Modi, hence the car crash we have now.

I honestly can't remember having a bet with you but quite happy to be proven wrong to the benefit of a charity of your choice.

In fairness Mapps it probably wasn't you as in a previous post I stated I wasn't too sure who the third guy was. It was somebody who jumped in (thinking they were on easy money) after Elite and Fatboy had made their bets and it could have been magpiemania. If it was then possibly he will advise. By the way please learn to use the word 'herd' in the subjective context, not 'heard' as in the context of having been told something.

[seriouspie]

That’s true. Just lie to them instead. Works every time.

I’ll pay the bet as well, the polls are very disappointing as has Starmer’s performance for the last 6 months or so. His lack of political experience and know how has sadly shown through.

He would still though have done a far far better job than that buffoon who’s currently calling himself prime minister. Take your pick, Covid, Brexit, ‘trade agreements’ , Northern Ireland, Hancock. pathetic culture wars, Cummings. The whole thing is a disaster zone. It would be of course all very amusing if it wasn’t people’s lives and jobs at stake.

They get away with because of the many voters like seriouspie who think the likes of Johnson are better than them because they have posh accents and went to expensive schools.

Very poor reply son but there we are. You seem to have a fetish about certain people who speak - in your words .... 'posh'. If you ever had a bit of brass you wouldn't send your kids to a decent school would you? Of course you would.

So carry on my friend calling Boz a buffoon, carry on with your protests because that's all the Labour party are now, a gang of left wing protesters who have destroyed a once formidable political force and very unlikely to ever be in power again. By the way, I'm waiving all bets so nothing to pay out. I only made the bets to make you and Elite bite on what at the time, you thought was a winner. I'm only interested in winning, the money means nothing especially when it's like taking candy from kids.

[seriouspie]

That’s true. Just lie to them instead. Works every time.

I’ll pay the bet as well, the polls are very disappointing as has Starmer’s performance for the last 6 months or so. His lack of political experience and know how has sadly shown through.

He would still though have done a far far better job than that buffoon who’s currently calling himself prime minister. Take your pick, Covid, Brexit, ‘trade agreements’ , Northern Ireland, Hancock. pathetic culture wars, Cummings. The whole thing is a disaster zone. It would be of course all very amusing if it wasn’t people’s lives and jobs at stake.

They get away with because of the many voters like seriouspie who think the likes of Johnson are better than them because they have posh accents and went to expensive schools.

Very poor reply son but there we are. You seem to have a fetish about certain people who speak - in your words .... 'posh'. If you ever had a bit of brass you wouldn't send your kids to a decent school would you? Of course you would.

So carry on my friend calling Boz a buffoon, carry on with your protests because that's all the Labour party are now, a gang of left wing protesters who have destroyed a once formidable political force and very unlikely to ever be in power again. By the way, I'm waiving all bets so nothing to pay out. I only made the bets to make you and Elite bite on what at the time, you thought was a winner. I'm only interested in winning, the money means nothing especially when it's like taking candy from kids.

[seriouspie]

Pathetic. This has nothing at all to do with what Starmer might have done, it's about the disgraceful handling of the pandemic by this government costing the needless loss of many lives. As Boris's former best mate just said, "If No 10 is prepared to lie so deeply and widely about such v ital issues of life and death last year, it cannot be trusted now either on Covid or any other crucial issue".

Regarding the bet, it seems enough of the public are quite happy to be lied to. It doesn't seem to bother many that the bloke in charge is a proven liar and cheat. He could probably bugger the Queen on the steps of Buckingham Palace and his ratings would remain stable. If you win (as looks likely), I will of course pay £20 to a charity of your choice as agreed.

Utter bollux....... small time loser.

[upthemaggies]

Who was the first Notts player to make his debut after a Labour leader - other than Tony Blair - last won a general election?

Answer..... An 18 year old by the name of Pedro Richards.

[seriouspie]

Very poor reply son but there we are. You seem to have a fetish about certain people who speak - in your words .... 'posh'. If you ever had a bit of brass you wouldn't send your kids to a decent school would you? Of course you would.

So carry on my friend calling Boz a buffoon, carry on with your protests because that's all the Labour party are now, a gang of left wing protesters who have destroyed a once formidable political force and very unlikely to ever be in power again. By the way, I'm waiving all bets so nothing to pay out. I only made the bets to make you and Elite bite on what at the time, you thought was a winner. I'm only interested in winning, the money means nothing especially when it's like taking candy from kids.

OOOps entered twice!!!!

[Borg elite]

You were quick to edit the small time lose as well serious, best not take the pee out of mapperley and then drop a succession of clangers 😁

[Elite_Pie]

Utter bollux....... small time loser.

Could you explain that? Specifically, please could you explain why having a proven liar and cheat leading the country is a good thing?

ps Saying that Starmer would have been worse isn't an acceptable answer.

[Mapperleypie]

Could you explain that? Specifically, please could you explain why having a proven liar and cheat leading the country is a good thing?

ps Saying that Starmer would have been worse isn't an acceptable answer.

That is all there is.

There seems to be a philosophy amongst people still supporting the Tories whereby they fabricate a much worse alternate reality in their heads as a means to justify still planning to vote for this absolute clown-cart of liars, incompetents & sycophants.