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  • Originally posted by GranthamPie View Post
    The Selfservatives doing what they have always done…

    Socialism for the Rich
    Capitalism for the Poor
    Well I suppose it's honesty at last, no more gaslighting with the fictitious 'levelling up' agenda

    The tories are there to represent the super-rich, so let's not be surprised when they act only in the interests of the super-rich.

    It's been a good few days for all the NCM posters who are bankers, hedge fund managers, large business owners, top rate tax payers, millionaires or billionaires (Well I assume that's what they are since they vote tory...) These posters must be very pleased with their windfalls

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    • Originally posted by the_anticlough View Post
      Well I suppose it's honesty at last, no more gaslighting with the fictitious 'levelling up' agenda

      The tories are there to represent the super-rich, so let's not be surprised when they act only in the interests of the super-rich.

      It's been a good few days for all the NCM posters who are bankers, hedge fund managers, large business owners, top rate tax payers, millionaires or billionaires (Well I assume that's what they are since they vote tory...) These posters must be very pleased with their windfalls
      Was thinking the same. The ordinary folks are being asset stripped in plain view and they voted for it!

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      • Basically, “thanks for voting me in, I’ll do what you Tory party members want rather than what the country needs”.

        Who would have thought it!

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        • Originally posted by frenchmagpie View Post
          Was thinking the same. The ordinary folks are being asset stripped in plain view and they voted for it!
          As usual, Frenchy, the voice of sanity. Until the left works out a way to mobilise and involve voters under30, our electorate looks like voting Tory forever. Mind, did you see that major poll of 25 - 34 year olds which voted 61% that having a strong leader was more important than Parliamentary elections? DEpressing.

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          • What a shambles.

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            • Originally posted by Mapperleypie View Post
              What a shambles.
              That’s what comes of having a voting system at general elections which allows a minority to elect a party with a majority of MPs, which can then do what it likes for five years. And what the Conservative and Unionist Party likes is to change to a leader elected by less than 200,000 people who don’t represent the country, who can then ignore the manifesto she was elected on.

              In short, it’s a shambles.

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              • Based on their performances on the hustings the Tory membership were certifiably insane to elect Truss instead of Sunak. I’m no fan of his, but he was entirely correct in what he predicted would happen if Truss implemented the policies she was proposing. I’m pleased from a Labour point of view they’ve elected another idiot, but not to the extent where I want to see people lose their houses.

                If another PM is forced to quit, the Tories have completely lost their mandate to govern.

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                • Originally posted by BigFatPie View Post
                  Based on their performances on the hustings the Tory membership were certifiably insane to elect Truss instead of Sunak. I’m no fan of his, but he was entirely correct in what he predicted would happen if Truss implemented the policies she was proposing. I’m pleased from a Labour point of view they’ve elected another idiot, but not to the extent where I want to see people lose their houses.

                  If another PM is forced to quit, the Tories have completely lost their mandate to govern.
                  And some Lenders are now withdrawing mortgage offers AFTER buyers have exchanged contracts, leaving them almost certainly in breach of contract

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                  • Originally posted by BigFatPie View Post
                    Based on their performances on the hustings the Tory membership were certifiably insane to elect Truss instead of Sunak.
                    You should also add that the Tory MPs were justifiably thick in putting these two up for the vote, when they eliminated more publicly popular choices.

                    Labour haven't done or had to do anything to sway voters, they've just pottered along highlighting the Tory mess.

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                    • Originally posted by BigFatPie View Post
                      Based on their performances on the hustings the Tory membership were certifiably insane to elect Truss instead of Sunak. I’m no fan of his, but he was entirely correct in what he predicted would happen if Truss implemented the policies she was proposing. I’m pleased from a Labour point of view they’ve elected another idiot, but not to the extent where I want to see people lose their houses.

                      If another PM is forced to quit, the Tories have completely lost their mandate to govern.
                      Agreed.

                      Might be worth asking Sunak what lottery numbers to choose. He was pretty spot on regarding Truss.

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                      • Soccerman has been saying that you're all LOSERS for ages. He's finally been proven right but maybe not as expected!

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                        • Staggering to think that if the BoE hadn’t stepped in this morning to buy back Government debt, pension funds across the country would have collapsed by this afternoon!

                          Ffs… how much more incompetent does a Government have to be before anything is done about them? They need removing, if not democratically, then by force!

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                          • Originally posted by frenchmagpie View Post
                            Soccerman has been saying that you're all LOSERS for ages. He's finally been proven right but maybe not as expected!
                            Soccerman also said that I give the bookies money. I backed Labour at 15/8 to win the next general election, and because Soccerman and his fellow gammons said “in Liz we trust”, I can now back the Tories at 13/8 to win. All Labour have to do is highlight the way this bunch of total incompetents keep f#cking up and it will be hard for them to lose.

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                            • Originally posted by GranthamPie View Post
                              Staggering to think that if the BoE hadn’t stepped in this morning to buy back Government debt, pension funds across the country would have collapsed by this afternoon!

                              Ffs… how much more incompetent does a Government have to be before anything is done about them? They need removing, if not democratically, then by force!
                              Maybe it's the right time for Charles III to get his revenge for what happened to Charles I.

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                              • What is happening is wrong on so many levels.

                                The Conservatives got a large majority for the policies Boris and Cummings set out, which included a high level of public spending on infrastructure, particularly in traditionally Labour-voting areas.

                                You can argue about whether that was promised in good faith or not, but it's not really the point. Truss has no mandate whatsoever to do what she is doing.

                                That's just the ethical problem. There's also the fact that it is balls-out, bat**** mental from an economics perspective. We've just restarted QE with inflation at 9% (officially, it's really probably more), but as GranthamPie pointed out they didn't have much choice because if they didnt, people's pension funds would've gone under by the close of business today.

                                And they've thrown the pound off a cliff at a time when the UK is already paying the highest prices we can remember for natural resources priced in US dollars. I can't believe what I'm seeing.

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