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  • #91
    Originally posted by DaveSmithRules View Post
    Yet Rob Street is the kind of signing who would have been vilified here, had we signed him when Donny did. He'd just come off a previous loan spell with Cheltenham where he'd scored something like 2 in 20. And a year with Shrewsbury before that scoring 4 in 40.

    Street played well against us, but I think Jatta scored about as many goals this season as Street has in the last 5 seasons.
    But was the difference to Donny from January on. We did nothing!

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    • #92
      Originally posted by SmiffyPie View Post
      But was the difference to Donny from January on. We did nothing!
      tbf, there's not much in Street's stats to suggest he'd be so successful - to the untrained eye, mine. An example of what Stal said on MC about being the right fit (right team/right coach) at the right time. Highlights really how the far the Bros have to go in finding the right fit at the right time in our JanTranny windows.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Mud Pie View Post
        tbf, there's not much in Street's stats to suggest he'd be so successful - to the untrained eye, mine. An example of what Stal said on MC about being the right fit (right team/right coach) at the right time. Highlights really how the far the Bros have to go in finding the right fit at the right time in our JanTranny windows.
        which is basically just unpacking what you're saying! Good point. As you were

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        • #94
          Originally posted by SmiffyPie View Post
          Budget size is irrelevant at the business end of the season. We could have got auto if the Bros had wanted it enough so let's stop kidding ourselves.
          All I have to say is Rob Sreet, Doncaster!!
          Rob Street proved in retrospect to be the tip of the mountain of transfers made by League Two clubs in the January window. I don?t know the numbers but how many arrivals were there at this level in that transfer window? 150? 200?

          Rob Street worked out very very well for Doncaster and got them promoted but he was a standout. They picked the right raffle ticket so many clubs didn?t including Notts

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          • #95
            Originally posted by TSANHO View Post
            Maybe the club made him an offer that made it clear they wanted him off the wage bill.
            I'd have expected the departure and thus availability, of such a high profile player as McG, would have found it's way on to the sports pages by now if true?

            A total rebuild in front of the defence is required IMO and the loss of McG would be a critical blow. JJ has been a shadow of himself since his injuries and without him, we have no guile, no spark, all very pedestrian and I'm not the only one with concerns for next season it seems. As I continually say, we're one bad season away from being back in the National League and what we have at our disposal right now, despite 'Stall's' optimism, is mid-table at best IMHO.

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            • #96
              If we had signed Street in January, I could have see the fans ranting. There was nothing in his figures saying he was the ticket to promotion. We went Whittaker instead. If fans had to make a choice in January between Street and Whittaker, many would have chosen Whittaker, many more neither. Even our system will fail sometimes. As for Jones and our wing backs, they have had to do far more defensive work this season than attacking. It needs to change next year for us to be more dangerous in the final third. Among many other things.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Med Pie View Post
                I'd have expected the departure and thus availability, of such a high profile player as McG, would have found it's way on to the sports pages by now if true?

                A total rebuild in front of the defence is required IMO and the loss of McG would be a critical blow. JJ has been a shadow of himself since his injuries and without him, we have no guile, no spark, all very pedestrian and I'm not the only one with concerns for next season it seems. As I continually say, we're one bad season away from being back in the National League and what we have at our disposal right now, despite 'Stall's' optimism, is mid-table at best IMHO.
                We did pretty well without Didzy a couple of years ago! The man is nearly 38 and can't shake his injury problems which means he will probably only be available for half the season anyway. I'm not sure he ever really fit the blueprint and we only signed him because he was so proactive in wanting to come back. If he is on big money, then I trust the bros to reinvest it in someone younger. Thanks for everything Didzy, but we move on.

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                • #98
                  Obviously every club in League Two are one bad (if we are being honest it?s more accurately awful or disastrous) season from being in the National League, that?s the nature of the beast.

                  Under these owners I don?t believe we will be anywhere close to a return to that level. The vast majority of the clubs that are relegated to the National League either have big financial issues or are very badly run off field behind the scenes, or both. We have absolutely no evidence regarding either under these owners.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Boomerangpie View Post
                    Obviously every club in League Two are one bad (if we are being honest it?s more accurately awful or disastrous) season from being in the National League, that?s the nature of the beast.

                    Under these owners I don?t believe we will be anywhere close to a return to that level. The vast majority of the clubs that are relegated to the National League either have big financial issues or are very badly run off field behind the scenes, or both. We have absolutely no evidence regarding either under these owners.
                    I have to agree with this from laddo.. all the scare mongering predictions about us getting relegated if Maynard had been retained was utter b-o- ll-ox..

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                    • Maybe how Rob Street did and how our January signings did is a reflection of their respective coaches rather than their intrinsic ability.

                      Certainly Will Jarvis is no more an effective wing back then I am an award winning chef.

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                      • Originally posted by BigFatPie View Post
                        Maybe how Rob Street did and how our January signings did is a reflection of their respective coaches rather than their intrinsic ability.

                        Certainly Will Jarvis is no more an effective wing back then I am an award winning chef.
                        That's because he's a winger

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                        • Originally posted by BigFatPie View Post
                          Maybe how Rob Street did and how our January signings did is a reflection of their respective coaches rather than their intrinsic ability.

                          Certainly Will Jarvis is no more an effective wing back then I am an award winning chef.
                          True dat.

                          I'd make the same argument for Jatta and Traore. No wonder Jatta's goals dried up when nobody passed to him and we didn't play to his strengths. Maynard don't have a clue what to do with Traore either. I'm expecting him to come good under a proper coach.

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                          • Originally posted by KCNotts View Post
                            True dat.

                            I'd make the same argument for Jatta and Traore. No wonder Jatta's goals dried up when nobody passed to him and we didn't play to his strengths. Maynard don't have a clue what to do with Traore either. I'm expecting him to come good under a proper coach.
                            And a pre season of getting to know his team mates.

                            Coming in to a squad mid season is a fairly thankless task for a coach as you are dealing with games (often sat/tue), managing players minutes, injuries which makes it more difficult for a new player to get properly coached with his team mates.
                            I do wonder if Traore?s header versus Port Vale had gone in, how that might have given him a huge lift and how that might have changed the course of ours and his season.
                            It was clear to me that SM didn?t fancy Traore. He rarely played despite injury to DM and Jatta being flogged like a donkey. That?s the bit SM is responsible for? the mismanaging of his front line IMO. He was quick enough to rotate his defenders and to some degree his midfield and wing backs.

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                            • Originally posted by Chicken Balti Pie View Post
                              That's because he's a winger
                              And so is Jones. Why is it that these idiot coaches cant see that, and play them where they will be more effective..

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                              • Originally posted by durhampie View Post
                                Probably realised that promotion was a pipe dream, after allowing our better players to leave the club, and be replaced by inexperienced youngsters. You can con people some of the time, but others can see thru the waffle.
                                The seasons over, the manager you (correctly) wanted out is gone - and here you are still miserable as sin.

                                Why do you bother

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