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  • Williams is Favourite [New Head Coach speculation thread]

    With the bookies to come back to Notts...
    Thoughts?
    Last edited by SwalePie; 02-06-2025, 09:47 PM. Reason: Added detail to title for clarity

  • #2
    Originally posted by MancMagpie View Post
    With the bookies to come back to Notts...
    Thoughts?
    That rules him out then

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    • #3
      Originally posted by tied_up_in_notts View Post
      That rules him out then
      We/he shouldn?t go back. We were in the slide when he left and his loyalty to both Notts and Swansea was questionable. Let?s look back with some fondness but move on in a different direction

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      • #4
        Yeah. I'm not totally sure.

        The pros:

        Knows the club
        Good rapport with fans
        Won't have to pay a fee to a club as he's currently out of work
        Entertaing football
        Loves the club
        Players will step up for him

        The cons:
        Is going 'backwards' progression?
        Too many mistakes with his style (pens red cards etc)
        Teams in L2 will just press us
        Got found out a bit in L2

        It's 50/50 for me. I wouldn't be annoyed but also wouldn't be delighted.

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        • #5
          It's pretty obvious he'd be favourite, been here before, been successful, would be fairly popular with the fans, he's available without compensation and he's watched a couple of our games recently.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MancMagpie View Post
            Yeah. I'm not totally sure.

            The pros:

            Knows the club
            Good rapport with fans
            Won't have to pay a fee to a club as he's currently out of work
            Entertaing football
            Loves the club
            Players will step up for him

            The cons:
            Is going 'backwards' progression?
            Too many mistakes with his style (pens red cards etc)
            Teams in L2 will just press us
            Got found out a bit in L2

            It's 50/50 for me. I wouldn't be annoyed but also wouldn't be delighted.
            Can someone explain to me why Williams is going backwards? Also, his home form was brilliant, with our current defenders and keeper, I'm fairly sure the away form would be better also, in fact, I reckon he's learnt where he went wrong. Swansea didn't leak goals like Notts under him.

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            • #7
              No from me. That was a magical season which bar Wrexham we stormed but with the likes of Ruben and Macca. ok the defence was not the best but any decent manager should have got that side up, and even then we only just did it with drama at the end of both play-offs. Then he chose to leave, wife has a job/business in Swansea, daughter there too at school? He could have stuck it out with us and benefited from a better defence. There's hardly a rush to employ him, despite his 'non-league' success here.

              I think the Bros will think they can do better. They nearly got it right with Maynard. Maybe a lot hangs on Roberto Gagliardi (Staff directory doesn't list him, thought he started 1st May).

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              • #8
                The betting means absolutely nothing at this stage, it's just the usual list of familiar names at ridiculously skinny odds. Many on the list will also be quoted for other vacancies. If someone suddenly goes to 1/10 it's quite likely, if they go to 1/25 it's usually a done deal. It's a market I wouldn't touch with a bargepole especially with our owners.

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                • #9
                  No No and thrice No, we need a new direction, A one direction going forward towards the opposition goal

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Chicken Balti Pie View Post
                    Can someone explain to me why Williams is going backwards? Also, his home form was brilliant, with our current defenders and keeper, I'm fairly sure the away form would be better also, in fact, I reckon he's learnt where he went wrong. Swansea didn't leak goals like Notts under him.
                    I'm open-minded to whoever the brothers decide to appoint. Picking managers isn't an exact science. One thing that's virtually certain is that whoever they select will be given a fair amount of time to show what they can do.

                    If Luke Williams makes a comeback I certainly would not be disappointed. Yes, there was too much overplaying at the back during his first reign, leading to some amateurish mistakes, but he may have learned from that and the standard of our centre-halves has improved a lot. Certainly the quality of the entertainment from his teams was some of the best I've seen in almost four decades watching Notts. It was possession football, but with much more pace and purpose than we've seen under Maynard.

                    Good luck whoever it is.

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                    • #11
                      Not for me. We were already on the slide before he dumped us with little hesitation.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mark_Ross View Post
                        Not for me. We were already on the slide before he dumped us with little hesitation.
                        This "on the slide" thing is massively overplayed.

                        It's true that our form had been patchy in the November and December before he left, but that was after 18 months of mostly outstanding results and entertainment. The weakness of our defence, and perhaps more specifically our defenders (Baldwin, Rawlinson, Cameron) at League Two level was beginning to show in the lead up to Christmas and continued to be evident after Williams left, but Luke's "bad run" wasn't actually that bad at all. It was probably accentuated by the excellence of what had gone previously, and some disgruntlement that he had so readily taken the Swansea job, but that's football.

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                        • #13
                          No way do we want him back. Ars**ole springs to mind who is full of bull sh*t

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                          • #14
                            Please god NO!

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                            • #15
                              I don't think going "back" is always wrong.

                              Scott Lindsay is back at Crawley.
                              Paul Cook returned to Chesterfield.
                              Eddie Howe returned to Bournemouth.
                              Martin Allen managed Barnet on a number of occasions.
                              Jimmy Sirrel had multiple spells at Notts.

                              I'm sure there are more examples. The question is whether he's the right man for the job or not. I think he'd help unite the club once again. The players and fans would get behind him. My only issue is the style of play. I know it was successful in the NL, but I was starting to wonder about it int he months leading up to his departure. Harrogate away was one of the worst performances I've seen from any Notts side. Totally devoid of ideas, with both sets of fans doing ironic cheers each time we passed it back to the keeper. I feel like we need to move away from that style rather than further towards it.

                              That said, it's Luke Williams, and I still love him. I'd be cautiously optimistic and hopeful that he's learned along the way.

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