Williams is Favourite [New Head Coach speculation thread]

[LeftPeg_Pie]

Maynard and Wilshere are chalk n cheese? one played pub football whilst the other played for England. One captained BT Engineers FC, the other, one of the big 4.
Now don?t get me wrong I don?t know what I?d make of Wilshere the coach, after all he has little in the way of experience, but that fits with what the bros do.
Wilshere hasn?t jumped in to football management with a club but has been learning at academy and then a Championship club. Whilst I assume picking up his coaching badges.

Does playing experience necessarily equate to a more successful coaching career?

Players may well have heard of Wilshere over Maynard, but if someone of Wilsheres profile turns up and cannot communicate, delivers crap training and starts poorly, players will not care if he was Pele.

Also, on the premise of working in an academy, that is clearly an excellent grounding in coaching; but is there much real world football jeopardy in an elite academy environment? Or are they more geared toward development? Probably the latter.

[matt_magpie]

Maynard and Wilshere are chalk n cheese? one played pub football whilst the other played for England. One captained BT Engineers FC, the other, one of the big 4.
Now don?t get me wrong I don?t know what I?d make of Wilshere the coach, after all he has little in the way of experience, but that fits with what the bros do.
Wilshere hasn?t jumped in to football management with a club but has been learning at academy and then a Championship club. Whilst I assume picking up his coaching badges.

Means absolutely nothing either way, ex pros have said that, carries them a few weeks and then if it isn?t working out, it means nothing.
Can?t remember LWs glittering career or glittering managerial record, same higher level, Wenger, Mourinho, it?s about the individuals coaching/management abilities.

[Notts78]

Does playing experience necessarily equate to a more successful coaching career?

Players may well have heard of Wilshere over Maynard, but if someone of Wilsheres profile turns up and cannot communicate, delivers crap training and starts poorly, players will not care if he was Pele.

Also, on the premise of working in an academy, that is clearly an excellent grounding in coaching; but is there much real world football jeopardy in an elite academy environment? Or are they more geared toward development? Probably the latter.

That?s the point tho, isn?t it? Our model is about development, so having that background gives someone like Wilshere an advantage over an SM.
Folks, I?m not saying let?s get him in. But clearly he?s had a different footballing education from SM, that is a fact. Comparing him to the likes of Rooney is also a tad daft as Wilshere hasn?t got an ego to say ?I can go and piss head coaching?, he?s gone and done some low key coaching which may or may not stand him in good stead.
What if he turns out to be an exceptional coach? We don?t need a manager, the model sees to that.

[BigFatPie]

Someone?s playing career is usually a poor indicator of whether theyll be any good as a coach or not and Wilshere is the same. The owners wont really know either and employing him will be a gamble like with anyone whose first head coaching job it would be.

Whoever it is I hope they have good tactical nous and an ability to change games that are going against us. It seems like a while since we had a coach or manager who could do that.

[countygump]

That's what the forum is about, opinion, gossip and speculation (a group of people from all walks of life having a natter).

You gotta love stuff like this:

''Just seen Jack Wilshere in Birds on Mapperley top getting a cream cake, said Crowley is a money grabbing ****er''. #notts

[SwalePie]

You gotta love stuff like this:

''Just seen Jack Wilshere in Birds on Mapperley top getting a cream cake, said Crowley is a money grabbing ****er''. #notts

Saw that

He was also apparently seen later on buying an air fryer in B&M Bargains in Netherfield so clearly en route to Meadow Lane haha

[Boomerangpie]

Someone?s playing career is usually a poor indicator of whether theyll be any good as a coach or not and Wilshere is the same. The owners wont really know either and employing him will be a gamble like with anyone whose first head coaching job it would be.

Whoever it is I hope they have good tactical nous and an ability to change games that are going against us. It seems like a while since we had a coach or manager who could do that.

It does indeed and that?s because it isn?t too common

[lunaspie]

You gotta love stuff like this:

''Just seen Jack Wilshere in Birds on Mapperley top getting a cream cake, said Crowley is a money grabbing ****er''. #notts

I heard he was in cahoots with former Premier League ref Mark Battenberg.

[irishpete]

Lukey boy coming back into the frame. Had drifted out, back now 10/1

[tommopie8]

Into the unknown once more undoubtedly.

If it was Williams he'd have been announced already surely.

[irishpete]

Into the unknown once more undoubtedly.

If it was Williams he'd have been announced already surely.

Not really. I'd say there would be some bargaining going on from both sides if they were in talks. Get out clauses & player signings for starters

[Elite_Pie]

Lukey boy coming back into the frame. Had drifted out, back now 10/1

My betting advice on this market is don't touch it with a bargepole. Unless you have very, very reliable inside info.

The odds being offered are beyond a joke. There are 49 options on BetVictor when I last counted, and four of them are 6/1 or less. Even worse when you consider the next head coach might not even be among the 49!

Good fun for rumours and conjecture, but nothing more.

[irishpete]

My betting advice on this market is don't touch it with a bargepole. Unless you have very, very reliable inside info.

The odds being offered are beyond a joke. There are 49 options on BetVictor when I last counted, and four of them are 6/1 or less. Even worse when you consider the next head coach might not even be among the 49!

Good fun for rumours and conjecture, but nothing more.

There's hell of a lot on there i personally wouldn't even look at. A stab in the dark for me would be Tom Cleverly. Broke his back in at Watford. Saw bits of them last season & of what I saw i liked but there were times Notts passage of play was excellent like the goal at Donny, but was his team consistent? i don't know.

[legs77]

There's hell of a lot on there i personally wouldn't even look at. A stab in the dark for me would be Tom Cleverly. Broke his back in at Watford. Saw bits of them last season & of what I saw i liked but there were times Notts passage of play was excellent like the goal at Donny, but was his team consistent? i don't know.

His name has been mentioned but I worry that the likes of him and Wilshere are not right for us they will play the good footy and have all the coaching badges etc but they?ve never worked with lower league players and it?s a different game down here.

I mean all managers are gambles nobody is a sure fire hit anywhere but as these lads were good premier league players would they expect L2 players to do things that is out of their skill set I wouldn?t have said this 5 years ago or so but now everyone is obsessed with the Pep guidebook.

I?d prefer someone who has operated at a lower level with a decent record and the best name I can think of is Evatt is he someone we can get though ?

[upthemaggies]

Must be at least 10/15 years now since managers started saying that there's no leaders on the pitch anymore and that players aren't talking to one another, so it would stand to reason if there's now a scarcity of managers who have anything much about them in the 35-50 age bracket.

With so many foreign managers taking the jobs in the upper tiers, we ought to be seeing a big pool of stand out English managers lower down. That doesn't seem to be the case though.