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  • Hinshelwood odds starting to drift Alaves shortening again

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    • Originally posted by durhampie View Post
      Lets put it this way, if you needed assistance i would call 998
      Come on durham, where are your morals? Despite our differences on here, if I ever saw laddo in trouble my human instinct would lead me to contact the emergency services.

      Although in his case it would be by post. With a 2nd class stamp.

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      • Originally posted by irishpete View Post
        Hinshelwood odds starting to drift Alaves shortening again
        The fact that the two of them have pulled so far ahead in the betting makes me think manager and assistant.

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        • Originally posted by BigFatPie View Post
          The fact that the two of them have pulled so far ahead in the betting makes me think manager and assistant.
          Why would Hinshelwood want to work with Alaves? The person we bring in should be allowed to pick his own staff.

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          • Originally posted by BigFatPie View Post
            The fact that the two of them have pulled so far ahead in the betting makes me think manager and assistant.
            Personally both wouldn't impress me, I think the owners need to make an appointment that shows they mean the business this coming season

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            • I see Plymouth are looking for a new manager ( didn'tknow he had gone) so we could be facing competition from them for our potentials

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              • Originally posted by Since71 View Post
                Why would Hinshelwood want to work with Alaves? The person we bring in should be allowed to pick his own staff.
                Dunno. Probably nothing in it, but Ive no idea why people would be sticking money on Alves otherwise.

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                • Originally posted by irishpete View Post
                  Personally both wouldn't impress me, I think the owners need to make an appointment that shows they mean the business this coming season
                  Me neither. The concensus on t'board seemed to be that we needed a manager with EFL experience, possibly one with some sort of promotion on their CV. They deffo ain't that.

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                  • Assistants like Alves are always high up in the odds for jobs though. Let's face it, if the season started tomorrow he'd get the nod as caretaker. Thankfully it doesn't.

                    King Luke or Des Buckingham for me.

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                    • Isn?t Des Buckingham being linked to the Cardiff job?

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                      • Originally posted by Since71 View Post
                        Why would Hinshelwood want to work with Alaves? The person we bring in should be allowed to pick his own staff.
                        I think most managers would want their own pick of backroom staff if given the choice, although it depends how keen they are to come.

                        Hinshelwood hadn't been on my radar until I saw him shooting up the odds, but looking at the largely unremarkable squad he had at York, he must have been getting something approaching the maximum out of them to finish where they did, even though they fell short in the playoffs.

                        We could contrast Hinshelwood's relative over-achievement with Stuart Maynard, whose biggest failing was that he didn't appear to get the best out of a Notts squad containing considerable talent. The club statement said as much.

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                        • Originally posted by jackal2 View Post
                          I think most managers would want their own pick of backroom staff if given the choice, although it depends how keen they are to come.

                          Hinshelwood hadn't been on my radar until I saw him shooting up the odds, but looking at the largely unremarkable squad he had at York, he must have been getting something approaching the maximum out of them to finish where they did, even though they fell short in the playoffs.

                          We could contrast Hinshelwood's relative over-achievement with Stuart Maynard, whose biggest failing was that he didn't appear to get the best out of a Notts squad containing considerable talent. The club statement said as much.
                          Bearing in mind JJ never got match fit, Crowley went in Jan what considerable talent did we really have?
                          I agree he had to go but I watched those players week in week out and yes we had a solid back line and keeper and great DCM in Abbott and Didzy when available but I?m struggling to see which players stepped up consistently.

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                          • Originally posted by matt_magpie View Post
                            Bearing in mind JJ never got match fit, Crowley went in Jan what considerable talent did we really have?
                            I agree he had to go but I watched those players week in week out and yes we had a solid back line and keeper and great DCM in Abbott and Didzy when available but I?m struggling to see which players stepped up consistently.
                            Chicken and egg I suppose. There certainly were injuries, but perhaps the owners are looking at several relatively recent signings who didn't particularly shine and thinking they're capable of far more than we've seen from them. Plus there's the whole 'inverted wingbacks' thing that seemed to drive a lot of people crazy.

                            If a new manager - whoever they are - walks in and gets something more out of several of the players who arrived during the last 18 months or so, then we'll know that Maynard's tactics were stifling their talent. Luke Williams managed to get the best out of a lot of players, so either our recruitment just went completely off the boil, or the coaching just wasn't maximising the talent.

                            I have to say, looking at the slow pace and the general lack of forward momentum and passion with which we played, especially after Saunders left, I'm open to thinking at least some of the recent recruits could do better with improved guidance.

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                            • Originally posted by jackal2 View Post
                              Chicken and egg I suppose. There certainly were injuries, but perhaps the owners are looking at several relatively recent signings who didn't particularly shine and thinking they're capable of far more than we've seen from them. Plus there's the whole 'inverted wingbacks' thing that seemed to drive a lot of people crazy.

                              If a new manager - whoever they are - walks in and gets something more out of several of the players who arrived during the last 18 months or so, then we'll know that Maynard's tactics were stifling their talent. Luke Williams managed to get the best out of a lot of players, so either our recruitment just went completely off the boil, or the coaching just wasn't maximising the talent.

                              I have to say, looking at the slow pace and the general lack of forward momentum and passion with which we played, especially after Saunders left, I'm open to thinking at least some of the recent recruits could do better with improved guidance.
                              I get the inverted wbs stuff but I saw Tarsoulla and Gordon play plenty of times not inverted and they were no better. Grants hardly had any great games, Whittaker couldn?t compete physically. Jatta missed a lot of chances post Christmas that seemed to knock his confidence further down the line even with Didzy mentoring him. Jarvis was always going to be a slow burner with no competitive games.

                              My view once the season got going and sighted it a few times on here was we had a decent solid squad with the magic dust of Crowley, JJ and Didzy and had we had them all play 75% of a full season I 100% believe we would have made the top 3.

                              Could have SM done better, more than likely but I do think he was against it with injuries and recruitment.

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                              • Hinshelwood and Alves both in to evens now.

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