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True. The only other time the bros sacked a manager, IB was appointed within a few days. That said, I think Ardley was sacked at that time specifically because IB was available. I'm certain they'll have a list of potential coaches to go to, so they won't be starting their search from scratch. We should hear something next week I'd imagine.Originally posted by Jampie View PostReassuring, but those weren't self inflicted emergencies like this one is...
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I don't for one second consider the action the Bros have taken to be an emergency. In a rare glass half full moment I would like to think that they may have realised that they need to stop speculating if they really want promotion and get a person with a proven record in to get the job done.Originally posted by Jampie View PostReassuring, but those weren't self inflicted emergencies like this one is...
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That's what I thought, Notts nearly came a cropper at the semi-final stage too. The system is supposed to favour the highest placed teams, but really it doesn't, that gap without a game is a disadvantage. So Hinshelwood is pretty much in the same position as Williams at the same stage. I would rather a manager who does it over 46 games than a play-off specialist. We have 3 spaces to aim for, not one, like the NL.Originally posted by BigFatPie View PostBit harsh to judge the bloke on 1 game after a 96 point season!
I do like the NL playoff format, but York were at a distinct disadvantage this season going into that game having not played for 15 days, while Oldham had played the week before, got a decent win, and were match sharp. We all want someone with multiple EFL promotions but even so I think Hinshelwood would be a very good appointment.
Having said that, I'm not yet convinced the bros won't appoint Alves, or just as bad, insist he carries on as assistant coach. The alternative would be to demote him.
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I'm not too nervous. If it's a case of waiting a short while for the right candidate to 'become available', rather than appointing a compromise option quickly, I think most people would accept the wait. Also, as has been said before, the collaborative way Notts County make decisions on signings etc., means that the club doesn't come to a complete halt just because one component is temporarily missing. The Head Coach is obviously a very important component, so there' a limit to how far you can take that argument, but if we had to wait another week or so for the new appointment I don't think it would break the system.Originally posted by Jampie View Postanyone else getting a little bit nervous that we haven't appointed anyone yet?
Sacking the head coach without a replacement lined up? Not really the brothers' style, I would've thought.
At least they did it at the end of the season so it's not necessarily a deathblow to the next one.
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Probably still way out of our range at present, but if we were able to attract a candidate of that calibre to League Two level it would be a huge coup and quite a good match for the owners' philosophy, even though he is an ex-Red.Originally posted by piegonk74 View PostHow about Steve cooper ? He lives locally out of work and could be sold the project ? Not sure he?d want to drop to league 2 however But family considerations may make the Notts job more attractive.
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Hinshelwood's record against the top 7 this season wasn't bad, W6 D4 L2 but we're talking about a division in which only three clubs had an average attendance that broke through the 4,000 barrier, York being the 3rd best supported behind the two teams who have reached the play off final.
He did finish strongly (other than losing out to Oldham) and 96 pts is some sort of achievement. Better on paper than Maynard but again that's not saying much. Would think most would be prepared to give him more time than Maynard before making their minds up though, if he is the man chosen.
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I don?t view this as an emergency of any kind, rather a considered decision which I agreed with.Originally posted by Jampie View PostReassuring, but those weren't self inflicted emergencies like this one is...
The limited say/control for the head coach on signings is a worry and could easily put some prospective candidates off but I believe we are a very attractive proposition to ambitious managers and coaches out there due to our ownership and how we are run.
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The advantage of the head coach approach is continuity. We don't have to rip it all up and start again every time a new man comes in. But I definitely think our approach self-selects for people who are perhaps not big personalities or born leaders. The managers with big personalities and real leadership qualities generally want to come in and run the club, including recruitment.Originally posted by Boomerangpie View PostI don?t view this as an emergency of any kind, rather a considered decision which I agreed with.
The limited say/control for the head coach on signings is a worry and could easily put some prospective candidates off but I believe we are a very attractive proposition to ambitious managers and coaches out there due to our ownership and how we are run.
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I think you hit on a very good point regarding big personalities. Saying that I am a big fan of the continuity approach. Badly neglected nor seemingly even considered in the pastOriginally posted by slack_pie View PostThe advantage of the head coach approach is continuity. We don't have to rip it all up and start again every time a new man comes in. But I definitely think our approach self-selects for people who are perhaps not big personalities or born leaders. The managers with big personalities and real leadership qualities generally want to come in and run the club, including recruitment.
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The managers with big personalities and real leadership qualities generally want to come in and run the club, including recruitment .... and spend the owners money.Originally posted by slack_pie View PostThe advantage of the head coach approach is continuity. We don't have to rip it all up and start again every time a new man comes in. But I definitely think our approach self-selects for people who are perhaps not big personalities or born leaders. The managers with big personalities and real leadership qualities generally want to come in and run the club, including recruitment.
I am happy with their approach, but obviously disappointed it failed last time. I think they will learn from it, and it is clear they have already put a lot of their own money in.
We need a leader though with a track record.
Currently Alves and Hinshelwood at evens, the rest of the field 10/1 and more
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