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  • #16
    Originally posted by Jocksgloves1 View Post
    Well I quite enjoyed it. Both teams played a bit of football. Yes, plenty of passes went astray, I thought that made the game more dramatic.
    Even first half, but as on Saturday our opponents took the initiative and dominated the first twenty minutes, unlucky slip costing us dearly. Dawson's full length save at 0-2 kept us in it, and a game we'd have lost a few weeks ago was saved. If you didn't enjoy that, then there's no hope.

    Then there?s no hope then cause it was poor at best. Poor quality poor tactics and poor atmosphere.
    If that was Steve Evans he would be getting pelters. It was poor and that?s been kind.

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    • #17
      Dawson is a very expensive disaster waiting to happen too often. TBF he hasn't been too bad lately but old habits taken some shaking off.....
      .............another one to let go in June.

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      • #18
        Backward steps tonight. Observations :- Teams know Dawson is a line bound flapper and play on it. The midfield (Gore is easily the best of them) are clones of each other with little quality or aggression. Hugill’s physicality is a big miss. Sherrif is a big soft waste of space and you can blow Martha over. We are far from safe if tonight is an indicator.

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        • #19
          Let us start with the positives, we are in the top half, more than Evan’s achieved. Douglas, was excellent and so pleased for him scoring the goal. Gore and Powell yet again gave everything, never stop running remember they played 130 minutes on Saturday. For the third time this season we came back from 2-0 down at home. We 5 unbeaten in the league.
          For me that was a very poor performance following the one on Saturday and both of those were MH fault. I simply do not buy the injury story for the weekend I think he was putting priority on this game but the manner of the cup defeat had a knock on effect to tonight’s performance. These managers spend too much time watching the premier league, resting players and not treating each cup game with the respect and desire to win as they should. Back to tonight, Hall and Martha were terrible, how one or both weren’t removed at half-time is beyond belief, yet he took off McWilliams who was doing ok and at least tries. McWilliams could have gone to right-wing back and tightened us up down that side, hall was beaten time and again in the first half and was so static going forward. Martha was shocking, tries to run through players when a simple pass is the option, MH says we might have to sell him in January as he was bought with the intention to sell for a profit, I think that has already gone to his head, not a patch on Wilks. We conceded from a set piece goal, what a surprise playing two full-backs as centre backs when we had two other centre backs sat on the bench. This coming back all the time, so Dawson can lump it to the opposition centre backs, how many games does it take before the management see that doesn’t work and we lose possession too easy. We were fortunate tonight very fortunate, play like that on Saturday and it won’t end so well. How many times did we work their keeper tonight? Dawson pulled off two very good saves again, their keeper could have sat on the bus watching the champions league games.

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          • #20
            Can?t understand this.
            You have to take into account our injury list and Burtons form going into the game notwithstanding their huge cup win at the weekend, albeit against non league opposition.

            They have now gone 5 away games unbeaten
            Drew 1-1 at Donny
            Won 1-0 at AFC Wimbledon
            Won 1-0 at Cardiff
            Drew 0-0 at Huddersfield

            They have only lost 2 away games this season and they were the first 2, at Barnsley and Stockport, both by the odd goal on 9th and 23rd August respectively.
            They have been very good away, only conceded 1 goal in their last 4 away games as shown above.

            They have a really good manager and are a very dangerous team. So to come back from 2-0 down with no recognised central defence against a defensively sound team, I reckon is a good result.

            I wasn?t disappointed at the loss in the Cup as the league is far more important for us. A month ago we were wondering where our next win was coming from and now we are up to 12th. Yes I know it is very tight but in the light of adversity through injuries I think the results have been commendable, but tonight Burton certainly deserved to get something out of the game and we take the point and move on.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Nardendee View Post
              Can?t understand this.
              You have to take into account our injury list and Burtons form going into the game notwithstanding their huge cup win at the weekend, albeit against non league opposition.

              They have now gone 5 away games unbeaten
              Drew 1-1 at Donny
              Won 1-0 at AFC Wimbledon
              Won 1-0 at Cardiff
              Drew 0-0 at Huddersfield

              They have only lost 2 away games this season and they were the first 2, at Barnsley and Stockport, both by the odd goal on 9th and 23rd August respectively.
              They have been very good away, only conceded 1 goal in their last 4 away games as shown above.

              They have a really good manager and are a very dangerous team. So to come back from 2-0 down with no recognised central defence against a defensively sound team, I reckon is a good result.

              I wasn?t disappointed at the loss in the Cup as the league is far more important for us. A month ago we were wondering where our next win was coming from and now we are up to 12th. Yes I know it is very tight but in the light of adversity through injuries I think the results have been commendable, but tonight Burton certainly deserved to get something out of the game and we take the point and move on.
              Well said nardendee .. some sense spoken at last on tonight's game .. like I said earlier they are no mugs Burton. I think it was a excellent point .with a very injury hit team . To get back to 2-2 with 25 mins left to play . Reece James played with broken ribs..

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              • #22
                Quite agree. 1st goal. They targeted our central defence weakness from the corner. A proper centre half heads that away. Blaming the goalkeeper for that is bizarre. Made a couple of really good saves & that one in the first half with his legs was great. Their second goal was a very unfortunate slip which they punished really well.

                Hamish?s late late leveller must have felted like proper Roy of the Rovers stuff for the lad.

                Who are the two guys on the New York Talk? I felt well depressed watching that, so much so I turned it off after about a minute.
                No allowances whatsoever. Both teams rubbish they said.
                You have to look at that result in the context of our injuries and dangerous opposition. For them to say both teams were awful is in itself awful.

                Positive spin. What?s that - 5 league games unbeaten? From where we were that?s remarkable. It?s night and day from where we were 5-6 weeks ago.

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                • #23
                  Summer recruitment is back firing on us now. At least Agbaire Hall Martha Kaleta Sherif Etete are nowhere as good as Hamshaw thinks they are. Ayres would be better definitely up front. Douglas last night same at centre back. Duncan next on the assembly line.

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                  • #24
                    Some people are still falling for this crap. Take a look at the crowd last night. People are voting with their feet. Tepid nonsense. The strategy appears to be buy a few foreign youngster and sell them on for a few bucks after a few matches. TS is the equivalent of Bill Maynard if ‘He’s the Gaffer” and Hamshaw is just the latest numpty he’s employed.

                    Home side last night against the league minnows and I think I counted 3 forward passes. Midfield full of pretty boys who have zero fight. Wingbacks who sit on the halfway line. Not sure what Martha does, and neither does he.

                    Sell up TS and let someone step in.

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                    • #25
                      Bloody hell this has shocked me this morning.

                      It was a night match at Rotherham on a cold and wet no sodden Tuesday against 2 teams in the bottom half of league one.

                      The play was quick at times and expansive with both teams playing their part.

                      Was it top quality? No! But what do you really expect?
                      Real Madrid, PSG, Man City or another team made up of multi million pound players?

                      Get some perspective into yourselves.

                      We watched a decent League One match with the team we support coming back from two nowt down.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by frogmiller View Post
                        Bloody hell this has shocked me this morning.

                        It was a night match at Rotherham on a cold and wet no sodden Tuesday against 2 teams in the bottom half of league one.

                        The play was quick at times and expansive with both teams playing their part.

                        Was it top quality? No! But what do you really expect?
                        Real Madrid, PSG, Man City or another team made up of multi million pound players?

                        Get some perspective into yourselves.

                        We watched a decent League One match with the team we support coming back from two nowt down.
                        I have perspective frog I’m a happy clapper I travel up and down the country to support the team. I like Hamshaw I think he will do well.
                        However I’m sorry but this negative pass back, long hopeless balls is not good to watch. A decent team last night beats us comfortably. When was the last time we played for 90 minutes.
                        We are hit and miss and if I’m honest I’m fatigued with the same excuses, injuries, new players, transition. I got soaked through on way there and back I think it’s easy to criticise the supporters who are turning up week in week out and that’s not a dig at anyone but it’s relevant. The club is drifting and it’s tedious.

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                        • #27
                          Ok,the usual over reaction from the usual posters, it wasn't very good,in fact aspects of the game were poor,but we fought back from 2 goals down, and now sit in the top half.
                          Too many had off days,and it's clear Nombe needs help up top,don't think Sheriff is that man,so back to Huggy Bear.
                          The highlight was Douglas again having a good game, topped off with his goal.
                          Obviously he's only playing due to the injuries, but he should be given a chance even when the others are fit,finally a young players coming through.
                          As Hamshaw has said many times, we are a work in progress, so games like this will happen, if that's not what you want don't go.
                          Otherwise, stick with them and see what happens.
                          UTM.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Townerslovechild View Post
                            Ok,the usual over reaction from the usual posters, it wasn't very good,in fact aspects of the game were poor,but we fought back from 2 goals down, and now sit in the top half.
                            Too many had off days,and it's clear Nombe needs help up top,don't think Sheriff is that man,so back to Huggy Bear.
                            The highlight was Douglas again having a good game, topped off with his goal.
                            Obviously he's only playing due to the injuries, but he should be given a chance even when the others are fit,finally a young players coming through.
                            As Hamshaw has said many times, we are a work in progress, so games like this will happen, if that's not what you want don't go.
                            Otherwise, stick with them and see what happens.
                            UTM.
                            Fantastic advice if you don?t like it don?t go. A lot didn?t go last night though did they. Maybe genuine supporters don?t like what?s happening to the club at the moment.
                            Yes genuine ones not fair weather ones.

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                            • #29
                              We're 14 games in long gone work in progress. Same with the last 2 managers in fact there's more empty seats now than with them. Can't fool the paying public with what we're seeing now on the pitch.

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                              • #30
                                I don't get the constant criticism of Dawson, he had a great game yesterday, for me anyway, and has improved beyond all recognition since the start of the season, again for me anyway, and at times single handedly kept us in the game yesterday and was my MOM. MH clearly has injury problems in both defence and attack based on the team and formation he put out last night, and whilst at times we seemed to be chasing shadows, there is a never say die attitude among the players that certainly wasn't there at the end of September. Burton are a decent team, and they themselves would have gone 12th in the table had they won last night. Zac Jules was a big miss last night but young Douglas did himself proud with a great performance and a first, senior goal, and whilst we weren't brilliant last night, neither did I think we were awful.
                                Anyway another point on the board, and Lincoln here on Saturday who sit 5th in the table, their away record is Won 3 Drawn 2 Lost 2 scoring 6 and conceding 4 so a close tight game I'm expecting, and let's hope one or 2 more players are available for Saturday. UTM

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