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  • O/T the budget.

    Congratulations to the work shy lazy scroungers. Keep knocking the kids out you won’t have to pay for them. The people up scraping the ice off their cars at 5am in the cold will pay.
    If you have savings in an ISA you shouldn’t have we will tax you on it but keep working hard to supplement the lazy.
    Liebour the party that rewards the ones who don’t want to work by punishing the ones who do.

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    Lie, tax spend. Lie , tax spend Lie, tax spend.
    The only time labour are nice to workers is when they want them to vote for them so they can lie, tax and spend.
    Manifesto we won’t put taxes up for working people.
    Rachel from accounts were going to tax working people so parents with loads of kids receive your hard earned gains. It’s not like all these foreigners coming over here have big family’s though so that’s good and they all work so no worries there.
    The party of no shame.
    Rishi was correct in everything he said about them.

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    • #3
      They?ll be. wiped out in local elections nxt year.

      Step forward his maj and get shut !!!

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      • #4
        I have to confess, I think that if you are capable of working you should work.
        Personally I am registered handicapped ♿️ disabled or whatever you want to call it and on top of that I was made unemployed when the company I wired for folded. Here in France we get 2 years on full salary if it happens to you as long as you have worked for the company long enough.

        So I do not have to work but I do. I do not work on the black market but I declare what I earn and that gets taken from my benefits.

        Basically whatever I earn gets reduced from my benefits and I also pay tax.

        Some may call me an idiot for doing what.

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        • #5
          Brilliant budget for the tattoo and vape shops with the child benefit increases

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          • #6
            I'll be under the hospital for at least the next 2 years for follow-on checks for cancer. There's a benefit you can get for this. I don't quality for that with pensions I get. I get less than the minimum living wage annually. I don't exist as far as this benefit is concerned!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
              Brilliant budget for the tattoo and vape shops with the child benefit increases
              I think the budget has wider appeal than just Reform followers

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              • #8
                I'm far from against the minimum wage rising , I was a union rep for 20 years but I can't help thinking that raising it every year such as today by 4.1% isn't going to be sustainable for too much longer .

                Small businesses that are the backbone of this country are bearing the brunt , many of these small businesses simply make a living for their owners and don't announce pre tax profits of millions of pounds , surviving and paying themselves a wage and their staff is about as good as it gets .

                In my opinion the government and the previous one too , the Tories to be fair made sure the minimum wage was increased in line with inflation are looking at this totally the wrong way .

                Surely the solution is to tackle why the cost of living is so high , why is it we have the highest energy costs in Europe ? and why is our weekly shopping bill so expensive ? .

                Wouldn't it be smarter if the minimum wage went further rather than increasing it year after year and placing yet more strain on UK small businesses who are still having to adjust to the increase in NI contributions from last year , an increase of around 60k for small businesses with around 15 employees .

                I wouldn't go as far as to say we are heading back to the 1970's when pay increases had to be at offered at 20% and more just to keep workers at pace with inflation but we are certainly heading in that direction .

                We all know how that worked out , UK industry was decimated because the government couldn't get a grip on the cost of living with the end result that Thatcher threw millions on the dole when she was elected in 1979 .

                The small businesses we have today for the most part came about because our big industries collapsed , what's going to happen if thousands of small businesses start going under ?

                Reeves today isn't tackling the problem at all by increasing the minimum wage , she's merely handed it to someone else to pay whilst telling anyone that will listen that she is on the side of working people .

                She isnt .

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mygiddypant View Post
                  I think the budget has wider appeal than just Reform followers
                  Yes the workshy scroungers who want freebies. Maybe you are one of them so welcome the budget. Do you detest anyone working hard to make a better life for themselves. Bitter and angry that people have worked for a better life.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by animallittle3 View Post
                    I'm far from against the minimum wage rising , I was a union rep for 20 years but I can't help thinking that raising it every year such as today by 4.1% isn't going to be sustainable for too much longer .
                    Animal, I hate the minimum wage. I think it has been great to get the scrupulous employers giving employees next to nothing for doing a job.

                    The employers wanting to pay I under the odds still do it on the black market.
                    People on the minimum wage often work more than one job because it is not enough to pay for everything. Even a couple both on minimum wage do not earn enough to pay for everything.

                    It is now a benchmark for the economy! I can only talk for France, but employers now the employers use the rise given to people on minimum wage as a standard! That is in monetary form and not percentage wise.
                    Percentage wise workers salaries are getting closer each year and it is not rising salaries but lowering them as a whole.

                    It was a great idea but it is being abused by each and every employer.

                    It is indeed the government that dictates the pay rises.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by frogmiller View Post
                      Animal, I hate the minimum wage. I think it has been great to get the scrupulous employers giving employees next to nothing for doing a job.

                      The employers wanting to pay I under the odds still do it on the black market.
                      People on the minimum wage often work more than one job because it is not enough to pay for everything. Even a couple both on minimum wage do not earn enough to pay for everything.

                      It is now a benchmark for the economy! I can only talk for France, but employers now the employers use the rise given to people on minimum wage as a standard! That is in monetary form and not percentage wise.
                      Percentage wise workers salaries are getting closer each year and it is not rising salaries but lowering them as a whole.

                      It was a great idea but it is being abused by each and every employer.

                      It is indeed the government that dictates the pay rises.
                      I've seen two sides to it in my time in the workplace since it was introduced .

                      I've seen a former employer let the minimum wage catch up to what he was paying with the result that all the staff on the shop floor became minimum wage earners .

                      I've also seen companies priding themselves on paying above the minimum wage and so today's 4.1% pay increase on the minimum wage will be replicated to keep it above that .

                      What generally happens in tough times such as now and a legal obligation to raise pay by 4.1% is that the company has to fund that increase from somewhere , it may have to let staff go , it may not be able to take staff on meaning the staff are often under more pressure to hit production targets and it may also have to scale back on investment .

                      Seeing Reeves today proclaiming she's on the side of the lower paid simply didn't wash with me because as I said in my post she's not addressing the cause of the problem , she's simply reacting to the symptoms .

                      That's just here and now politics , another can kicked down the road which is pretty consistent with UK government's attitude towards practically everything .

                      Anyone believing Reeves actually has a plan is probably completely deluded .

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by animallittle3 View Post
                        I've seen two sides to it in my time in the workplace since it was introduced .

                        I've seen a former employer let the minimum wage catch up to what he was paying with the result that all the staff on the shop floor became minimum wage earners .

                        I've also seen companies priding themselves on paying above the minimum wage and so today's 4.1% pay increase on the minimum wage will be replicated to keep it above that .

                        What generally happens in tough times such as now and a legal obligation to raise pay by 4.1% is that the company has to fund that increase from somewhere , it may have to let staff go , it may not be able to take staff on meaning the staff are often under more pressure to hit production targets and it may also have to scale back on investment .

                        Seeing Reeves today proclaiming she's on the side of the lower paid simply didn't wash with me because as I said in my post she's not addressing the cause of the problem , she's simply reacting to the symptoms .

                        That's just here and now politics , another can kicked down the road which is pretty consistent with UK government's attitude towards practically everything .

                        Anyone believing Reeves actually has a plan is probably completely deluded .
                        Spot on Animal

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                        • #13
                          What would you all have done?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by harpo88 View Post
                            What would you all have done?
                            Scrap foreign Aid
                            Scrap carbon capture
                            Scrap money to Mauritius
                            Scrap benefits to illegals.
                            Keep the 2 child cap.
                            Stop benefits for people who are fit enough to work but won’t.
                            That would save billions.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mygiddypant View Post
                              I think the budget has wider appeal than just Reform followers
                              Why don't you provide a link? Make sure you fact check it first though.

                              Pray tell us: What does your average Pakistani Rape Gang apologist think of the budget?

                              I'm sure you're alright with that comment seeing you freely label people when they express their views on here.

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