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  • #16
    He’s a nesh flapper who un- nerves the defenders in front of him . Holmes got the flak for the third goal but wasn’t he just shielding the ball expecting his keeper to come and claim it ? Amazed that Hamshaw allegedly rates him but suspect he’s been told he can’t replace one of the top earners.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by crookadile View Post
      Shot stopper yes. Goalkeeper no.
      100 percent correct. Instills no confidence in our back line at all.

      Let us all be honest and say we could do better.

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      • #18
        Anyone who thinks a keeper with such little concentration who lets a ball through his legs trying god knows what like that, when anyone in their right minds would gather a ball up in the hands, deserves little better. Come on, that includes the manager. It was beyond embarrassing. And just maybe he is on high wages and can’t be replaced…..or is it no other club would be daft enough to take him on.

        If a poor defence is not protecting him, fair enough. But he had oceans of time for the first goal and involved in the third. Both by not doing what he should rightly be doing, so he really is bang to rights. And it often happens. His concentration is often poor.
        This is the main key.
        Outfield players can protect each other, but keepers need to do the basics right and the first goal was the last straw in my estimation of him. It wasn’t unavoidable, it was totally avoidable. That’s the key.

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        • #19
          Dawson may not have had one of his better games against Blackpool, and yes the first goal, through his legs from an angled shot, and the last goal, he has to come and claim the through ball, or for me he does anyway, were things he himself will probably say 'I should have done better. However, he also made some really good saves, the reaction save from the point blank shot he turned over the bar 2nd half was stunning and a few more as well, and I've said this before that he has come on in leaps and bounds this season, and my main criticism of Dawson would be that he doesn't roll or throw the ball out often enough when he gets the chance, but he most certainly wasn't the main reason we lost against Blackpool, as, Dan Gore apart we, as a team, were collectively awful, although I did think Blackpool played really well too. UTM

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          • #20
            So basically Cam should have bent down and picked up the ball that went through his legs !
            Yes it's that simple, all goalies, even the very best will have this happen to them at some point.
            Maybe a slight miss judgment by the keeper, a hard and low shot that deviated slightly, many reasons.
            As a keeper you are always judged harshly as any error often ends in a goal, there were many other errors in this game, none of which were Dawson's.

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            • #21
              Just on Blackpool and their 3rd goal. I'm not accepting that the 3rd was Dawson's fault. Holmes had so much time to do something with the ball and in the end did nothing.

              Maybe you could blame it on a lack of communication, we'll never know, but that's bread and butter defending. That's a player not doing his job for me, it's his ball to deal with. Tap it back to your keeper or clear it. He did neither and its a concern because Holmes was also poor against Salford.

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              • #22
                Dawson is absolutely at fault for the third goal midweek. Holmes is shielding the attacker from the ball allowing it to run INSIDE the keepers 6 yard box and even then Dawson is too scared to come and collect the ball. He's way to static and addicted to standing on his goal line, he often does it with high balls into the box as well, though to his credit he's doing a lot better now than at the start of the season on this.

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                • #23
                  I personally still think the point about Dawson that's poor is his complete ineptitude with the ball at his feet. We don't have a team of midfielders who are going to run around and pick up all the second balls from knockdowns, or quick wingers and other forwards to make plays from flick ons,

                  We have one of the best central midfielders in the league, and most of the best chances were making are coming from tricky interplay in the middle of the pitch, just look at Spence's or Kaleta's chances. Hoofing the ball long to no one actually in particular stops the rest of the team from playing at their best. It's 2025 not 1985 and the game has evolved, a good keeper has to be able to do more than just be a good shot stopper

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                  • #24
                    I've been saying for two years that we need a big aggressive keeper who treats invaders into the box as a personal insult.
                    I'm still right.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by SdnMiller View Post
                      Dawson is absolutely at fault for the third goal midweek. Holmes is shielding the attacker from the ball allowing it to run INSIDE the keepers 6 yard box and even then Dawson is too scared to come and collect the ball. He's way to static and addicted to standing on his goal line, he often does it with high balls into the box as well, though to his credit he's doing a lot better now than at the start of the season on this.
                      I disagree.

                      First of all the ball never enters the 6 yard box. Watch it back. It must be nearly THREE YARDS outside the box when Holmes tries to clear it. Dawson expects Holmes to deal with it because he pretty much has the ball at his feet, hence he's static. Tap it back to the keeper so that he can hoof it clear and do your job as a defender FFS.

                      I agree about the point on crosses. He definitely cost us points earlier in the season but now seemingly looks more prepared to come for them.

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                      • #26
                        hes not good or poor hes just bang average. he makes great saves and lets in some right marys not his fault he just is that kind of keeper. makes it worse he followed viktor.

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                        • #27
                          Even Johansson having problems at Stoke City, let a few goals in a lately, plus made some good saves, but I said when he went to Stoke, their defence were terrible, a keeper can be good, but needs a defence capable of doing their job in front of him.
                          Same with Dawson, our defence have had some right howlers this season, so not done their job, putting Dawson under pressure.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by RossTheMiller View Post
                            hes not good or poor hes just bang average. he makes great saves and lets in some right marys not his fault he just is that kind of keeper. makes it worse he followed viktor.
                            I agree, he's just an average League One keeper in what at the minute is an average League One team. We're so used to having above average keepers at this level that it just makes him look worse than he probably is.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Masbroughstreet View Post
                              I agree, he's just an average League One keeper in what at the minute is an average League One team. We're so used to having above average keepers at this level that it just makes him look worse than he probably is.
                              Exactly,over the years we have been spoilt with goalies, especially in recent years.
                              Mike Pollitt ,who everyone recognises as great keeper, also suffered from "Dracula" syndrome, in fact the only time he really came off his line was when his Chesterfield team came back to Millmoor.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by townerslovechild View Post
                                in fact the only time he really came off his line was when his chesterfield team came back to millmoor.
                                Pie dodging

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