Bolton post match thoughts?

[Back of the net]

No doubt there's something in what you say about older fans, but doesn't social media add a dimension that wasn't available 'back in the day'?

You can hear the manager's opinions in real time and read views which support your own thoughts from people you have never/will never meet.

The vitriol you see on here isn't, unfortunately, unique to Rotherham. Is it symptomatic of a generation raised on social media? Is the abuse freely given by some more noticeable one here? I think so. Perhaps there's something that contributes to the bitter negativity of some that is specific to Rotherham, but I don't know what it might be, or what gave rise to it.

You complaining about people bitterness and negativity with your contributions on here is up there with the most hypocritical post ever.
You really are a piece of work.
Unbelievable.

[animallittle3]

No doubt there's something in what you say about older fans, but doesn't social media add a dimension that wasn't available 'back in the day'?

You can hear the manager's opinions in real time and read views which support your own thoughts from people you have never/will never meet.

The vitriol you see on here isn't, unfortunately, unique to Rotherham. Is it symptomatic of a generation raised on social media? Is the abuse freely given by some more noticeable one here? I think so. Perhaps there's something that contributes to the bitter negativity of some that is specific to Rotherham, but I don't know what it might be, or what gave rise to it.

It's certainly not specific to Rotherham , if it came across that way it wasn't intended , in fact the group on here are pretty rounded with their criticism compared to other clubs including my own .

[mellowmiller]

Sorry didn't really answer this. No idea on the injury's. You would except Benson to have another one this season. Spence, who knows.
Tbh our midfield is more about possession without the ball than having that barlaser type player who makes things happen when we have the ball. I don't think this side is far off being a decent league one side.
From what we have seen from the players I would have to say. A 4411 or 451 with
Dawson
Rafferty Douglas Yules James
Hall Spence gore Powell Benson
Nombe
Would be a good base.
Add a LW and a target man and we're not far off

How do you have "possession without the ball"?
That's a new one on me 🤔.

[Heliosphan78]

Already said all that poor recruitment apart from Gore who Evans signed rest tell me one that's adding much to the side now? apart from Baptist. Got to make best of what we've got till the January window.

Try T Holmes up front with Nombe. Baptist centre mid. Side at Blackpool:

Dawson

Rafferty Douglas Jules

Hall Gore Baptist Powell James

T Holmes Nombe

So your solution to our current on-field predicament is to play our best defender in midfield and our second most calamitous defender as a striker? And you want to do this experiment away at Blackpool, a relegation rival?

What about Etete in goal? He's a big lad. Ever thought of that one?

[RU66]

So your solution to our current on-field predicament is to play our best defender in midfield and our second most calamitous defender as a striker? And you want to do this experiment away at Blackpool, a relegation rival?

What about Etete in goal? He's a big lad. Ever thought of that one?

Baptist can defend gets forward. Be better than when we played Humphreys there. T Holmes he needs a few games to get the cobwebs off someone to win balls lumped up make things happen up front. Etete doesn't.

[caytonmiller]

How do you have "possession without the ball"?
That's a new one on me 🤔.

Maybe it should read "position" and the poster should have been more careful with his post during this festive season,

[caytonmiller]

Baptist can defend gets forward. Be better than when we played Humphreys there. T Holmes he needs a few games to get the cobwebs off someone to win balls lumped up make things happen up front. Etete doesn't.

Multi alert. Multi alert. Woooop woooop

[Heliosphan78]

Personally, I've got no confidence in Hamshaw keeping us in this division, mainly because I can't see what's going to change. Our performances have been generally poor all season and we're 22 games in. The difference now is that we're getting the results our performances deserve and that's on the manager and his coaching team to fix.

I'm just sick and tired of us sacking managers and basically ripping things up to start again. I've got no appetite for yet another change in philosophy. I'm completely on board with what Hamshaw wants to do which is why it's so disappointing to see things going as they are.

I think the club have made mistakes left right and centre regarding recruitment and I include Woody, Tonge and Burbeary in that. But on the other hand, its hard to be totally critical given that we don't know how much Hamshaw has been backed.

We need a big reshuffle in January but most of all, we need TS to come out and provide some clarity regarding his vision for the club.

[RU66]

Multi alert. Multi alert. Woooop woooop

Are you in your 2nd childhood! Multi me never had 3 user names on here got banned with 1st one. 2nd one couldn't log in on phone so changed it.

[Heliosphan78]

Baptist can defend gets forward. Be better than when we played Humphreys there. T Holmes he needs a few games to get the cobwebs off someone to win balls lumped up make things happen up front. Etete doesn't.

How long are you giving him to shake the cobwebs off? He's been back since the end of November.

Quick point on Baptiste. If I was Chris Wilder I'd be giving serious consideration to having him back at the Lane in January, assuming there's a release clause that is. He must be on his radar after conceding 5 at Wrexham.

[RU66]

Personally, I've got no confidence in Hamshaw keeping us in this division, mainly because I can't see what's going to change. Our performances have been generally poor all season and we're 22 games in. The difference now is that we're getting the results our performances deserve and that's on the manager and his coaching team to fix.

I'm just sick and tired of us sacking managers and basically ripping things up to start again. I've got no appetite for yet another change in philosophy. I'm completely on board with what Hamshaw wants to do which is why it's so disappointing to see things going as they are.

I think the club have made mistakes left right and centre regarding recruitment and I include Woody, Tonge and Burbeary in that. But on the other hand, its hard to be totally critical given that we don't know how much Hamshaw has been backed.

We need a big reshuffle in January but most of all, we need TS to come out and provide some clarity regarding his vision for the club.

Said at start of the season didn't want Wood back as coach here too much one of the boys. Doubt if he's the coaching type.

[mellowmiller]

Helioshan 78 said:
"We need a big reshuffle in January but most of all, we need TS to come out and provide some clarity regarding his vision for the club."

I agree that a lot of us would like TS to say something but people must have realised by now that he ALWAYS disappears when the going gets tough. That's hardly the hallmark of a strong leader, just the opposite really.
As for "his vision for the club"....don't hold your breath. When has one ever been made public apart from the "Premier League in 5 years" nonsense"?
Unfortunately relegation to the basement league is becoming an increasingly uncomfortable possibility which, if it happens, will mean TS has taken us full circle but left us with a nicer rented property.
The early gratitude that supporters felt when he rescued the club is dissipating rapidly which is a real shame but sentiment can't get in the way of reality and the general opinion seems to be that he needs to sell to someone who can make wholesale changes and move the club forward.
If only life was that easy!
It's more likely that TS will either continue to run the club at arm's length or hand the reins to his son who doesn't seem particularly interested so we could be in the doldrums, or worse, for a while.
Happy New Year!

[Tigerish]

So much space on here is devoted to Mr Stewart moving on and selling up.
Ok.
But who will want to buy Rotherham United when there are far easier pickings?
Eg we had 8-9000 fans turning up to watch us in the Championship.
Clubs with a more illustrious history and bigger catchment area will always trump us
Wrexham is the exception to the rule I have just set out. But I suspect that it will end in tears and all the Jonny come lately will crawl back under their stones.
Thoughts?

[Old_time_miller]

We will just about scrape staying in the division, if?..

There are actually changes in january in players. We know who the main ones are. It hangs in the balance if enough are made, and improve the side.

Personally, I think there are just too many square pegs in round holes, for individual reasons, they are all different.
Too many and too close to call.

Someone said the 9 games run was due to midfield. That was quite right. Not been same before or since.

[BramleyMiller58]

So much space on here is devoted to Mr Stewart moving on and selling up.
Ok.
But who will want to buy Rotherham United when there are far easier pickings?
Eg we had 8-9000 fans turning up to watch us in the Championship.
Clubs with a more illustrious history and bigger catchment area will always trump us
Wrexham is the exception to the rule I have just set out. But I suspect Exacthat it will end in tears and all the Jonny come lately will crawl back under their stones.
Thoughts?

Exactly IMHO