Huddersfield post match reflections

[avondalemiller]

It can help MH's cause when he openly critisises some players who's he told can go, then have to play them because of injuries.

He's on a hiding to nothing, is it his fault, or did he do right telling them?

Don't forget those players are in the Shop window so you'd think they'd have a go...(ish),

[Heliosphan78]

An absolute honking performance.

Thing is, we never tried to win that game. Jack Holmes and James Clarke as wing backs was a laughable decision by Hamshaw. Has anyone EVER seen Holmes play well as a wing back? As for Clarke, he never got near their left winger in the first half but the manager waits until halftime before he changes anything!

Far too many players strolling around tonight, an absolute disgrace some of them. Etete shouldn't play football for this club ever again, he will though. McWilliams has checked out for me, just watch him stop running for their 2nd goal. Rafferty as well for their 3rd goal, he just let's their striker run past him. He did the exact same thing 5 minutes earlier too when Cann blocked the one on one. It just isn't good enough and it's very obvious certain players aren't playing for the manager.

I don't know what on earth that was tonight, Huddersfield looked at least 2 leagues above us and they made 7 changes from their last league game.

Pathetic. I don't know what the team will be on Saturday but there are certain players who shouldn't be anywhere near it.

[caytonmiller]

I agree mellow it isn't who the manager is, but with this ownership and his cronies we have more chance staying up if MH isn't our boss than if he is, in my opinion. We were right to get rid of Evans and doing so kept us up and at this time all we can have as a success this season is avoiding relegation.

You do realise it was the appointment of MH that kept us up. Strange statement M8
I can see the mellow/frog point of view as rinse and repeat hasn't been working. Well not for the last 4 managers. I've always said any manager should be given to the end of a season and I stick by than. I also see the other point as nothing is working ATM and motivation/tactics are down to the manager..
And this manager is also rinse and repeating...

[Yak]

You do realise it was the appointment of MH that kept us up. Strange statement M8
I can see the mellow/frog point of view as rinse and repeat hasn't been working. Well not for the last 4 managers. I've always said any manager should be given to the end of a season and I stick by than. I also see the other point as nothing is working ATM and motivation/tactics are down to the manager..
And this manager is also rinse and repeating...

Cayton.
In your opinion what was his post match interview?

Honest.
Inexperienced
Car crash

[CAMiller]

Cayton.
In your opinion what was his post match interview?

Honest.
Inexperienced
Car crash

I know your question was for Cayton but personally I haven't seen it Yak, I've never watched them whoever the manager has been. Considering the recent events and climate at RUFC I'm guessing it was a rhetorical question and MH's interview last night was all 3.

[ManorFarmMiller]

It won't do any harm.

Wont it? Thats the point though, it has done. Hamshaw has a huge chunk of the available budget going on players he doesnt want and cant move on. Fire Hamshaw, the next guy has that the problem with the entire squad (i.e. Richardson). Dont know what the answer is to be honest, but not sure firing Hamshaw wont make things even worse.

For me however, the system and style has to change. 3 at the back isnt working and we move the ball way too slow and almost surrender penetration and risk to just retain possession. Dare I say it, think we need to be a bit more hoofball playing a 4141 or 433 shape.

[mellowmiller]

Yet when it was Taylor you were vocal about him mellow.
Now the problem is the club
So were you wrong about Taylor?
Hypocrisy mellow you can see that certain posters just don’t want to criticise MH.
I’m not banging on about anything apart from the hypocrisy now it’s this manager.
Agree with pocket that certain posters have created an echo chamber.
Any other manager you would say different because you have previously.
Selective memory on display by some.

I agree I wanted Taylor to go and some of the others too. It's what football fans always do when things go wrong, blame the manager.
I do it, others do it and when we get our way we're pleased about it and look forward to the next one on the conveyor belt having a go.
What I'm trying to get through is that it doesn't work at our club, things don't just miraculously improve when we get a new guy in.
There is no doubt that Hamshaw's position is now untenable based on results and performances but do people really have a strong belief that everything will be fine and dandy if TS pulls the trigger and gets his next "high quality candidate" in?
Really?

[Old_time_miller]

I will breathe a sigh of relief when summer comes. It cannot come fast enough. Hugill, rafferty and many more will disappear.
Money to spend and a new beginning.

[Old_time_miller]

I know one thing for sure, bickering about each other on here won?t solve anything.

[Yak]

I know your question was for Cayton but personally I haven't seen it Yak, I've never watched them whoever the manager has been. Considering the recent events and climate at RUFC I'm guessing it was a rhetorical question and MH's interview last night was all 3.

Yeah it was a little bit Cam.
He’s being honest but these players he’s calling out he referenced they are players he’s inherited. Martha, Agbiarre, Eteke Yearwood to name a few weren’t. And now he’s called players out publicly will they put a shift in for him probably not.
I do think some of it is inexperience and that’s fine with me.
The car crash bit is he talks about we will be ok in a few weeks well he’s been saying that now for too long.
He also takes no accountability for playing the same system that isn’t working. The wing backs were a joke and he seems totally void of adapting to any other way of playing and it was imo weak and not a good look for him or the club.

[Thesilentman]

The performance was a complete embarrassment! The players strolling round are obviously the one's the manager has publicly stated he doesn't want here, i know he's not named them but it's obvious who they are. McWilliams being the most obvious candidate for me, the way he stopped tracking the player for the 2nd goal is unforgivable! Rafferty another one, meant to be the club captain, he's no leader he's a coward! Time for the chairman to regain his mojo and allow the manager to oust the quitters and bring in the sort of quality he actually wanted in the summer! We are becoming a less saleable asset and I can see another administration coming!

[Derbymiller]

Cayton yes I know that, but my point was around a change at the time had a positive impact at a time when we seemed to be spiraling to a bottom four position. Obviously it is worse now and I am clutching at straws in the hope a change will be enough to lift us out of relegation. I know that our issues are deeper and if TS doesn't stop believing his own ego we will be back here next year. I do not see anything in MH that makes me believe he is capable in this league or the next league down. Very worrying times

[Brin]

Cayton yes I know that, but my point was around a change at the time had a positive impact at a time when we seemed to be spiraling to a bottom four position. Obviously it is worse now and I am clutching at straws in the hope a change will be enough to lift us out of relegation. I know that our issues are deeper and if TS doesn't stop believing his own ego we will be back here next year. I do not see anything in MH that makes me believe he is capable in this league or the next league down. Very worrying times

Derbs, how can you say he'd be a failure in League 2 without the evidence, or are you using RU66's all seeing eye? There are 20+ players that can be rid of come the close season, Hugill being your favourite. Should we be in League 2 next season, he/we start afresh. This has been a complete baptism of fire for him this season as well you know. This isn't a b.ollockng by the way pal

I clearly recall a fitness coach once being asked to take over a car crash of a side and to try his best to keep us in the Championship. Alas due to his 'new' role and naivety as a Manager, his team set ups and use of his then squad, he failed and we left the Championship.

After a close season break and the good riddance of many under performing wage stealing crap players, the same ex coach/new Manager tried a different approach with his newly acquired team and as they say, the rest became history. Doesn't Matt Hamshaw deserve a crack at it like Paul Warne was given or, shall we all just cry off and sack yet another Manager?

Big question out there for those who have worked in Management/Team Leader roles. In your job when you first set out, were you instantly perfect?

Did you make mistakes along the way and have to re adjust your style and deliverance in order to amend your failure to deliver what was expected or again, were you that perfect?

I am fully behind Matt Hamshaw. He has ideas, plans and truly wants to succeed to bring back stability and maybe the glory times again to us Millers. This requires time, patience and a strong cash injection for this to happen.

His arrival at the club last season saw us stay up. A slight euphoria settled in and he was accepted as 'one of our own'. This season has seen probably our worst ever injury list from a group of players, some of them his buys and mostly those that he inherited. Are we all so blind to the fact of this damning situation but we don't acknowledge this has been our main cause for failure so far this season or, is the be all and end all WE ARE MASSIVE AND WE SHOULD BE PUSHING FOR PROMOTION? Sack him, sack him, sack him.

If he is sacked, those on that side of the bed will say told you so. The others like myself will also feel he wasn't given a good run/chance at it. Football does that to folk, we all have opinons. Whichever way it rolls, it won't stop me following my team my Rotherham United.

[Derbymiller]

Brin great questions, I don't have insider knowledge or anything except judgement based on what I see and read. I don't see a man that learns, 3 at the back has created issues all season and I think he is either stubborn or arrogant and won't see it. I have said before we have two reasonable L1 full backs he plays them out of position, we have decent CBs and he has two decent CBs in the young players as well, no excuse to not play the players in that formation in positions they know, that is a man that isn't going to succeed in my opinion. There are lots of other things as well, but that is a good example.

[Derbymiller]

Paul warne started in January when we were already as good as down, MH had a full preseason and brought in 13 players he has also had numerous opportunities to address the injury situation in terms of reviewing and making requests to the board, according to PD he hasn't done that, certainly in regards to the backroom staff. Now PD might not be telling the whole story I can only go on what is reported. The man lacks gravitas and lacks a presence, manager isn't for him in my humble opinion.