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  • MH, Stockport is his "Forest away"

    I will be honest, I want MH to succeed and would like him given more of a chance.

    BUT for me, Stockport is his "Forest away" - reference to the Mark Robins - Fergie game.

    He needs a result on Saturday, more importantly for me, he needs to make a change. 3421, 352, 343 coupled with a patient build up valuing possession over taking risks is not working - we lack penetration and are not good enough to keep the ball without causing ourselves problems.

    I think we need to go to a 4141/433 approach and play more direct. Get the ball forward quickly, push up the pitch and press the opposition. We have the players to do this and it will be something they are all familiar with, wont take much bedding down. We also need to develop a bit of a nasty streak, we are way too nice to play against. We dont make the cynical fouls, the time wasting and general all round sh*thousery that successful teams employ.

    If we go on Saturday, with the same formation, same style of play - I will change my views on MH - seen enough of the current ways and it is not working. Last chance saloon for me.

  • #2
    We aren’t expecting to win but we can’t go and just play passive , backwards play football. If he plays the same system then I fear a drubbing. I’ll be there but not expecting anything other than another horror show.

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    • #3
      As soon as MH got the job last season the certain number stopped playing. Same happening again. A sacking won’t cure anything.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Yak View Post
        We aren?’t expecting to win but we can?’t go and just play passive , backwards play football. If he plays the same system then I fear a drubbing. I?’ll be there but not expecting anything other than another horror show.
        Doesn’t matter what system is used, not at the moment.

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        • #5
          He makes Stubbs look good.
          We can do a lot better.
          And we will.
          Might as well do it sooner rather than later.
          I wonder if Uncle Colin would come back and keep us up?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Tigerish View Post
            He makes Stubbs look good.
            We can do a lot better.
            And we will.
            Might as well do it sooner rather than later.
            I wonder if Uncle Colin would come back and keep us up?
            I wondered that myself but in reality it would only be papering over the cracks.
            When he was here before and miraculously kept us up, Warnock told TS what was wrong with the club and what needed to be done but TS chose to ignore him.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mellowmiller View Post
              I wondered that myself but in reality it would only be papering over the cracks.
              When he was here before and miraculously kept us up, Warnock told TS what was wrong with the club and what needed to be done but TS chose to ignore him.
              And it?s been a steady decline in general since.

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              • #8
                If we go say 4-3-3 we need 2 forwards in to start with one who could play wide right. Agbaire & Yearwood did ok last night so they've moved up the pecking order. If James isn't fit Jules would have play left back.

                Dawson

                Rafferty Agbaire Baptist Jules

                Hall Yearwood Powell

                Nombe + 2 more

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                • #9
                  Bit of nostalgia....

                  Stockport County player Kevin Francis put Miller's favourite, Nigel Johnson out of the match at Millmoor with a really crunching tackle over 30 years ago. You could hear the crack from the family stand.

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                  • #10
                    I don't think he'll be in charge for the Stockport game. Tony back tomorrow, i think his trigger finger has been itching and he's going to pull it!

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                    • #11
                      My team for what it is worth:-

                      Dawson

                      Baptiste Agbaire Raggett Jules

                      Yearwood Gore Powell

                      Hall Nombe Martha

                      J Holmes if Gore not fit and move Hall to Midfield

                      Hughill if Nombe not fit

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                      • #12
                        Not a criticism of the people who have posted teams and formations, but this crisis has moved well beyond a change in personel and a new system.

                        It's a bit like being on the 20th floor of a tower block which is engulfed in flames from the 18th floor and rising, and hoping a different colour water pistol will dowse the flames.

                        Nor will a change of manager save us.

                        The only chance we have is new ownership and there is no guarantee that we will find one and if we do, there is no guarantee they will be honest or competent.

                        We are completely f*,cked.

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                        • #13
                          I too think Hamshaw(and hopefully all his team) will be gone before Saturday.Suspect Stewart will have somebody (Rowett ?) lined up attracting them with a huge bonus for staying in this league.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ManorFarmMiller View Post
                            I will be honest, I want MH to succeed and would like him given more of a chance.

                            BUT for me, Stockport is his "Forest away" - reference to the Mark Robins - Fergie game.

                            He needs a result on Saturday, more importantly for me, he needs to make a change. 3421, 352, 343 coupled with a patient build up valuing possession over taking risks is not working - we lack penetration and are not good enough to keep the ball without causing ourselves problems.

                            I think we need to go to a 4141/433 approach and play more direct. Get the ball forward quickly, push up the pitch and press the opposition. We have the players to do this and it will be something they are all familiar with, wont take much bedding down. We also need to develop a bit of a nasty streak, we are way too nice to play against. We dont make the cynical fouls, the time wasting and general all round sh*thousery that successful teams employ.

                            If we go on Saturday, with the same formation, same style of play - I will change my views on MH - seen enough of the current ways and it is not working. Last chance saloon for me.
                            A good post making a lot of sense especially the rejigging of the back line. Will Hamshaw change it remains to be seen.

                            If he remains stubborn with his team formation and we lose again, then you have to question his mentality and approach to his position.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by the_idiotb_stardson View Post
                              Not a criticism of the people who have posted teams and formations, but this crisis has moved well beyond a change in personel and a new system.

                              It's a bit like being on the 20th floor of a tower block which is engulfed in flames from the 18th floor and rising, and hoping a different colour water pistol will dowse the flames.

                              Nor will a change of manager save us.

                              The only chance we have is new ownership and there is no guarantee that we will find one and if we do, there is no guarantee they will be honest or competent.

                              We are completely f*,cked.
                              Have to agree it's looking awfully close to that scenario.

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