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  • #16
    When i said "cynical " before, I'll change that to brain dead.
    Out of blue, someone comes along who is very rich, with access to even richer people, who clearly loves the club, wants to take the club forward, and some people are already slagging him off.
    I for one am excited about what he can do for us,give the bloke a f*cking chance.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Townerslovechild View Post
      When i said "cynical " before, I'll change that to brain dead.
      Out of blue, someone comes along who is very rich, with access to even richer people, who clearly loves the club, wants to take the club forward, and some people are already slagging him off.
      I for one am excited about what he can do for us,give the bloke a f*cking chance.


      Yes definitely let him get his feet under the table 1st! But might need someone like a Warnock to keep us up?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by uttis View Post
        Sorry to intervene but this terrace talk or the guy who runs it is very anti MH, if you look on Facebook I would argue it is bordering on libel the abuse is absolutely horrible if you scroll down how this guy can pretend to be a supporter God only knows
        I agree with Heliosphan let’s give Phil Smith a chance at least (who by the way Terrace Talk is very insulting about) I know things aren’t great at the minute but any additional support/ideas must be welcomed
        They go to the games, pay their money so their opinion is as good as anyone's but **** me they are moaning *******s. I thought I'd be able to tune into anything where people talk Millers, but I find them unlistenable. Hate people who moan like **** and then say "I hope they prove me wrong..." therey hedging their bets. If you're going to make such heavily loaded criticisms that pay ne heed of any context that the leaders are working in, then by all means have those opinions, but don't say "I hope they prove me wrong", just say "if they prove me wrong then I am a complete nobend and know nothing about football so, going forward I will shut the **** up"

        Only my opinion.

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        • #19
          Well said Uttis, football fans have different views each to their own except when the abuse steps over the line. The abuse from these people is appalling and way over the line of what is acceptable I am surprised libel action has not followed already.

          Phil Smith is one of the best businessmen in the country Lloyd's Bank don't pay £400m for a business you have built in just over 8 years, but these clowns call him "clueless", yet he has Non Exec Director positions with a number of well known Companies in the finance world. And he is offering his services and expertise to RUFC for free. The only people clueless are the people running Terrace Talk

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          • #20
            It is foolish to criticise Smith for the state we are in, he is here to help improve the situation and resolve some of the poor management decisions made over the last few years. To do this he needs time, and I think his appointment is great news.
            I think his comments around MH are what you expect, no matter what he really thinks, he has to support the man in the seat at this time. The relegation comment I think is more about preparing us for the likely situation that we will go down, he is basically saying if we take a step back, don’t worry we are prepared. Let us be clear by next Saturday afternoon we will know what our real chances of staying up are, without Gore and Powell I can’t see us doing as well as some others on here can, but we will see.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Old_time_miller View Post
              My thoughts were that some of the quotes seemed at odds to his initial interview the other week.
              Seemingly not bothered at all about going down, thinking that would only impact on fans.
              Less fans, lower income (price reduction or not) lower commercial revenue, less income from all sales on match days. Only saving would be on players wages, which would naturally follow on players staying or new ones in.
              Relegation would only make things worse...and this guy does not get it. He thinks in terms of say a 3 or 4 yr plan to get from 2 to ch.

              Possibly, using his method of sustained growth on and off the field. Fine in theory. But it is only that, as he openly admits he thinks it can be achieved without a budget increase. He lives in a commercial world, successful at that. What he envisages you cannot apply to a football club, football will pull and push via players, injuries, costs, inflation, income receipts in a way he will not be used to planning for.
              The current administration cannot at times handle it, and we get in trouble. He will fall into the same trap the way he talks.
              Very few boards or chairman are good at it. The current one has never really delegated to those that know football enough times.

              Pushing the boat out now and again, at the right time, in a controlled way with good signing, not splashing a 1m on Nombe, while letting other better players walk a way free he will have to stop. We have come to a crashing halt on that, a good thing, but by paying for previous errors.

              The way he talks has no substance, he has a lot to learn. Thinking relegation can be easily overcome and it only troubles the fans is a massive red flag as far as I am concerned.

              An owner good at selling lighting.
              Perhaps one who is good at finance.
              We need one who can build a board, staff across the club, good at running a football clube from a football direction, delegate to them and let them go with it. A sound concern.
              Well done you. You've sure got all the answer's. What an informative read.

              Why don't you offer him a hour of your time free? You could put him right on everything. Give him some business advice whilst you're at it. Why make ?400m. With your insight he'll make a cool Billion next time.

              Amazing how dismissive ordinary people can of people who have achieved tremendous success.

              What's your rap sheet. B!tcoin billionaire or just a know it all? 😂😂

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              • #22
                Originally posted by HensonsPRman View Post
                Well said Uttis, football fans have different views each to their own except when the abuse steps over the line. The abuse from these people is appalling and way over the line of what is acceptable I am surprised libel action has not followed already.

                Phil Smith is one of the best businessmen in the country Lloyd's Bank don't pay £400m for a business you have built in just over 8 years, but these clowns call him "clueless", yet he has Non Exec Director positions with a number of well known Companies in the finance world. And he is offering his services and expertise to RUFC for free. The only people clueless are the people running Terrace Talk


                You've got a short memory who tried to get me outlawed on millers banter? On there & here some have been abusive in words towards me but I can take it. But it's ok I'm not a millionaire, yet!

                I don't mind terrace talk can't see how they step over the line no more than I've had on these forums.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by howdydoo View Post
                  Well done you. You've sure got all the answer's. What an informative read.

                  Why don't you offer him a hour of your time free? You could put him right on everything. Give him some business advice whilst you're at it. Why make ?400m. With your insight he'll make a cool Billion next time.

                  Amazing how dismissive ordinary people can of people who have achieved tremendous success.

                  What's your rap sheet. B!tcoin billionaire or just a know it all? ����
                  Let us have your views on what he said then, big mouth.

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                  • #24
                    Phil Smith's record speaks for itself.He has been very successful in business and is willing to give his expertise to our club in order to improve it.For too long, there has been no plan for the future of RUFC and I am confident we now have leadership and there will be changes for the better.Thank you Phil for coming on board.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Derbymiller View Post
                      It is foolish to criticise Smith for the state we are in, he is here to help improve the situation and resolve some of the poor management decisions made over the last few years. To do this he needs time, and I think his appointment is great news.
                      I think his comments around MH are what you expect, no matter what he really thinks, he has to support the man in the seat at this time. The relegation comment I think is more about preparing us for the likely situation that we will go down, he is basically saying if we take a step back, don?t worry we are prepared. Let us be clear by next Saturday afternoon we will know what our real chances of staying up are, without Gore and Powell I can?t see us doing as well as some others on here can, but we will see.
                      Derbs, unlikely we will go down? Powell and gore out for a month, important that. We are not doing well. Fragile.
                      This Smith take on relegation, a plan if we do? It is just as hard to get out of 2 as it is one.
                      And it is his punching above our weight that bothers most of all. You cannot sustain by just punching above your weight, as we have found out many times. The phrase states the obvious, but with more investment you are no longer punching above.
                      You cannot have your cake and eat it in the way he talks.

                      Unless Smith has a free hand, in whatever way, we won?t get to the acid test and see has cards in the hand. It would be much better if he kept a low profile, as he may well be having to not say much at all?..and it really does get a very odd impression.

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                      • #26
                        If we go down will be the worse case of mismanagement in my near 60 years watching us. Terrible recruitment. Only some of the loan signings add anything consistently to the side.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Old_time_miller View Post
                          Derbs, unlikely we will go down? Powell and gore out for a month, important that. We are not doing well. Fragile.
                          This Smith take on relegation, a plan if we do? It is just as hard to get out of 2 as it is one.
                          And it is his punching above our weight that bothers most of all. You cannot sustain by just punching above your weight, as we have found out many times. The phrase states the obvious, but with more investment you are no longer punching above.
                          You cannot have your cake and eat it in the way he talks.

                          Unless Smith has a free hand, in whatever way, we won?t get to the acid test and see has cards in the hand. It would be much better if he kept a low profile, as he may well be having to not say much at all?..and it really does get a very odd impression.
                          I don?t say unlikely I said likely, I think the loss of gore and Powell is massive, no engine room in midfield, people need to note that Spence has also been playing with injections!! I don?t think MH has the ability as a manager to keep us up, he makes too many mistakes and doesn?t seem to learn.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by howdydoo View Post
                            Well done you. You've sure got all the answer's. What an informative read.

                            Why don't you offer him a hour of your time free? You could put him right on everything. Give him some business advice whilst you're at it. Why make ?400m. With your insight he'll make a cool Billion next time.

                            Amazing how dismissive ordinary people can of people who have achieved tremendous success.

                            What's your rap sheet. B!tcoin billionaire or just a know it all? 😂😂
                            Nailed it.

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                            • #29
                              Surely Phil Smith is what the club (and most fans),have crying out for.
                              He's already put more money into the club than most of us in lifetime of watching, I see it as perfect scenario for all involved, the club gets outside advice and help for free, and Mr Smith gets the chance to try before he buys !
                              Win win.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by RU66 View Post
                                If we go down will be the worse case of mismanagement in my near 60 years watching us. Terrible recruitment. Only some of the loan signings add anything consistently to the side.
                                And this is the man who said Baptiste, Gore and Gray weren't what we needed!

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