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  • #46
    Unlike some, I've nothing personal against Taylor, he was/is a relatively inexperienced manager, and wasn't very good for us,his first season was given a massive start by the position Warne left us in.
    I wish him well for the future, but if we are going to sack Hamshaw, then he isn't the answer.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by UlleyMiller View Post
      We'd lost 9 of 16 that season, the win against Coventry was the sole highlight (Norwich was decent, but taking the rose-tinted glasses off, Norwich were easily better that day). Taylor was sacked because we were playing horrendously and effort was missing (losing at the pig pen was one of the worst outings I've ever seen in 40 years). The prior season we had some great outings, but a lot of credit for that sits with what Warne left (we were 8th with a game in hand which could have put us up to 4th). Taylor oversaw a steady decline that season and almost a freefall the next (left us in 22nd, shortly after signing Ayala - a personification of his time).

      Hamshaw has been bad for us. There have been signs he was getting it, but he's been far too stubborn, hasn't motivated the lads, has routinely failed to make an impact with subs/half time talks, has had a middling to poor time with transfers, and if he leaves, does so with us looking at very likely relegation. But despite how poor we are now, and contrary to some comments that L1 is an "easier league" (they're all relative unless you have Cardiff, Birmingham type resources), the gulf between MT and MH is barely worth discussion. Both have been a very bad fit, and both (in their own way, and to differing extents) took us backwards.

      It's time to part with one, and definitely not to bring the other back. I've said on here recently that I think there's thinking upstairs that going down isn't necessarily a bad thing and I think the current situation supports that... but if I'm wrong, it has to be a Warnock type appointment where the guy knows it's until May only, and is well compensated for L1 survival. Huge effort then behind the scenes to secure a longer term fix from May.
      Respect your opinion Ulley but don?t agree with most of that. I think you are being incredibly harsh about Taylor and I understand he wasn?t everyone?s cup of tea.
      It?s all about opinions and like I said I respect them but don?t agree not one bit.
      I don?t want him back anyway so we crack on with the hopeless incompetent one.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Yak View Post
        Respect your opinion Ulley but don?t agree with most of that. I think you are being incredibly harsh about Taylor and I understand he wasn?t everyone?s cup of tea.
        It?s all about opinions and like I said I respect them but don?t agree not one bit.
        I don?t want him back anyway so we crack on with the hopeless incompetent one.
        Whatever opinions people have, going back rarely works. Even King Ronnie had a hard time in his second stint (although the situation he faced was ridiculous and he actually did pretty well IMHO)... it just never really clicks.

        Hopefully we'll see a change in the coming hours/days, but if we don't it means I'll possibly get to visit Holker Street and LNER Stadium for the first time. Every cloud...

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        • #49
          Some of you have short memories. Taylor utterly wrecked the playing side of the club. Piddled off the medical staff, so they disappeared and the injuries started at that point. Recruitment and tactics from Jan was appalling, the treatment of woody, and finally the chairman took note.

          The man should not be allowed to mange a pub team. Teams he has had end up playing like one.

          What is happening now has no bearing on whether the walking football disaster turned pundit who talks at 50 miles an hour, sorry, erm, er, erm and says little of value, isn’t worthy of a thread. Whoever, should anyone of the club read this social of learned fans, be in no doubt, some of them do not speak for the majority……. He is NOT wanted. Let us not make things worse.

          IF we get a break with injuries, we WILL stay up. We do not need Taylor road to real disaster.

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          • #50
            So Matt Taylor who was our manager three managers ago is the cause of our injury crisis..mmmmmm in the time since then have all the available support staff in football disappeared? This injury crisis is caused by a number of factors, recruiting unfit players or ones that are injury prone, poor player fitness, training and preparation facilities. Using part time staff to fill full time high importance positions, letting the manager and so called fitness guy mark their own homework and not bringing in external expertise to do a full investigation and assessment, poor treatment of injured players like walking around in the cold instead of immediately treating them, doing scans on players days after the injury, not speaking out and asking for additional help (according to Paul Douglas), and perhaps our situation and confidence isn’t helping players to be motivated to make themselves available in a timely manner. Our board including the COO have a lot to answer for when it comes to the injury crisis but so does the recruitment team and the manager. However the fact we have yet another injury crisis gives MH an excuse and those that think he will eventually turn good, perhaps he will in the same way milk turns good if it is left out of the fridge for long enough. You could put 6 players from the Man city u21 team in our team and MH would still struggle to get a result, 7 points in 14 games, repeat that and we won’t even make 40 points this season, He is one of the worst managers I have seen in charge of Rotherham, not the worst but one of the worst.

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            • #51
              I think few would argue that if Gore and Powell had been playing in the last 3 games, things would have been different. Before Gore got injured, which was by being barged by a player, we had had an unbeaten short spell, Powell was playing better. I assume you are including Powell in a frequent injury prone player?

              As you say, there is a mixture of things, not least a poor keeper who twice let goals in trying to practically sit on a ball, and the donny fiasco. And dubious other things.
              Quite a number of players are still here from 2 previous managers. I wouldn’t have liked to have no money to spend this summer, trying to prop up the side.

              We can argue this and that every day, but what the current situation is goes far beyond before.

              There is a disparity between Taylor and Hamshaw. When taking over Taylor the side took a nose dive. Under Hamshaw we did not.
              The position here is all the injuries and keeping people fit.
              Hamshaw may get the sack, but it won’t change anything.
              Getting the players back like Gore and Powell should. If we get that break.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Derbymiller View Post
                So Matt Taylor who was our manager three managers ago is the cause of our injury crisis..mmmmmm in the time since then have all the available support staff in football disappeared? This injury crisis is caused by a number of factors, recruiting unfit players or ones that are injury prone, poor player fitness, training and preparation facilities. Using part time staff to fill full time high importance positions, letting the manager and so called fitness guy mark their own homework and not bringing in external expertise to do a full investigation and assessment, poor treatment of injured players like walking around in the cold instead of immediately treating them, doing scans on players days after the injury, not speaking out and asking for additional help (according to Paul Douglas), and perhaps our situation and confidence isn?t helping players to be motivated to make themselves available in a timely manner. Our board including the COO have a lot to answer for when it comes to the injury crisis but so does the recruitment team and the manager. However the fact we have yet another injury crisis gives MH an excuse and those that think he will eventually turn good, perhaps he will in the same way milk turns good if it is left out of the fridge for long enough. You could put 6 players from the Man city u21 team in our team and MH would still struggle to get a result, 7 points in 14 games, repeat that and we won?t even make 40 points this season, He is one of the worst managers I have seen in charge of Rotherham, not the worst but one of the worst.
                Do you mean the Man City u21 what lost here 4-2? Because they had 11 players not just "your" 6 selections.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by avondalemiller View Post
                  Do you mean the Man City u21 what lost here 4-2? Because they had 11 players not just "your" 6 selections.
                  I was using them as an example and you know it, the point being it isn't the players he has it is his ability to manager. In the latest interview he pleads for more time to turn it around, yet again referring to the past, yet again talking of missing players, but he never actually explains what are they doing to address the issues. The fact that he can't get a 90 minute performance out of his team, the fact that we can't score goals or create clear chances, the fact that we have 7 points from 14 games, which is 0.5 points a game. The fact we took ZERO points from two relegation rivals.

                  You never know we might take 6 points from the two home games and then go on a run but don't hold your breath.

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                  • #54
                    3rd March 2026
                    EFL League 1 - Exeter City

                    Exeter City ... Appoint Matt Taylor, as manager

                    Taylor appointed until the end of the
                    2025-26 Season.

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                    • #55
                      Hopefully that stops some on here wanting to take us backwards.

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